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Re: Thank you, Ubuntu

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Post by IgorPartola » Mon, Oct 04, 2010, 12:52 PM UTC

wyclif wrote: post #117

IgorPartola wrote: post #79

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Certainly looks promising. For some reason it reminds me of Portable Apps. As for Dropbox, yes, I recently went through installing it. Terrible experience on Ubuntu. I think the reason is mostly that it is using a proprietary daemon. A FUSE driver seems like a much better idea, and if they released it under an open license, it would be as easy as apt-get install dropbox.

I've had nothing but a completely smooth experience with Dropbox on Ubuntu. YMMV?

I tried to set up Dropbox without any sort of a GUI. I know that their .deb package is partially an extension to Nautilus, and since I run Xubuntu I don't have that installed. Instead I followed the poorly written instructions at http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/TextBasedLinuxInstall which resulted in a .py file being invoked via ~/.profile which still creates a GUI window to ask you for your information, etc. Why not have a standard daemon with a ready-made init.d script rather than this madness?

Re: Thank you, Ubuntu

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Post by fauigerzigerk » Mon, Oct 04, 2010, 2:57 PM UTC

s3graham wrote: post #110

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #85

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I guess what I'm "doing wrong" is to expect sensible out of the box behaviour. I'm fully aware that I can make it do whatever I want to if I put enough work into it. That holds for almost everything in life. What's limited in my life, though, is time. Installing Python 3 alongside the old version didn't work for a long time after Python 3 came out. If it works now, that's fine. I compiled my own Python 3 a long time…

On the contrary, you're acting like you desperately want to be a sysadmin by demanding to control which specific version of each package is installed.

No, I want developers to be in control of dependency management.

Re: Thank you, Ubuntu

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Post by bryanh » Mon, Oct 04, 2010, 4:00 PM UTC

code_duck wrote: post #59

IgorPartola wrote: post #17

I keep try to evangelize the fact that things like apt are one of the biggest wins for the various UNIX-like OS's. In Windows world installing software takes both finding it and configuring the installer. On a Mac you have to at least find it. On Ubuntu/Debian/etc you just have to know the name (or you can search a central database). Also no more Java/Flash player/Acrobat Reader "needs to be updated" messages. You up…

It's so true - when I configure a Windows machine I can't believe what a pain it is to go find and install all the needed software (go to web page... click... find download area... download... double click... click 800 more times...). And then, uninstallation is a mess. That's one of the things that I think is so silly when people say Linux isn't user friendly, that the package management is really so amazing, and pe…

Check out http://ninite.com/. The name is extremely forgettable (I have it bookmarked under mass installation), but it lets you install dozens of Windows apps with one click!