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Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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Trackpad also doesn’t work under Linux with the NFC model. Hardware wise the webcam and sound are beyond horrible. The fan curves are obnoxious and it still gets uncomfortably hot. It’s such a shame, I had high hopes for this laptop but it’s collecting dust in a drawer. Between the sleep states, track pad, thermal issues and throttling, poor audio visuals and battery life … the thing really should never have had that…

I have this labtop and have had none of these problems. I am on ubuntu linux with a patched initrd. The trackpad works like a champ, the screen is magnificant and the webcam works great. It does got hot, but only when I am under heavy load. So far this has been a great step up from my 2013 macbook

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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I planned to buy this laptop some time this year. Has lenovo stopped supporting linux as well as they used to? I've owned two lenovo laptops and loved them and planned to buy another. I'm also looking at dell laptops since their linux support is reportedly excellent.

I just switched from an MBP 2013 to a ThinkPad T480 running Ubuntu 18.04. I'm loving it. Linux support has been really great and I didn't have to install a lot of special drivers. (e.g. trackpad support with multi-touch scrolling worked from the start) A lot of Dell's have that terrible bottom placement of the webcam. Things to love about the T480: - Fairly portable at around 3.5 lbs with a 14inch screen. It avoids t…

I just made a similar swap from a 2013 MBP to the X1 and so far I love it. One great thing about the T480 over the X1 is you can push the CPU harder in the T480 due to better cooling. I like the size of the X1 so went with the smaller labtop, but so far its been great

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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It's worrying how obscure and poor standards compliance modern hardware is starting to display. And we're talking about PCs. Let's not even discuss mobiles. In 2012 I bought a MacBook Air to run Linux. It's a great silent machine with all Intel hardware, except the pretty poor quality Broadcom wireless card. It boots with any vanilla kernel, and everything just works. Except for poor wireless range. What machine can…

Thinkpads might not be as bad as you think. I have an X230 at home, which runs many flavors of linux extremely well and is dead silent, and a T440s at work which is also an excellent choice albeit slightly more expensive. You can pick up refurbished t440s'es for around 500-700 euros in the Netherlands, where X230's go for 200 at the very lowest price point (still with an ssd!). Unless I'm playing Counter Strike on th…

X1 Carbon 5th gen had some kinks at first but has been serving me well w/ Ubuntu for a year now. Managing the HiDPI display has been the only real headache -- if I could go back in time I'd have gotten the 1080p screen instead of the high res one.

Besides that when I say it works, I mean it really works. Even the 4g card I added worked out of box on Ubuntu!

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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It's worrying how obscure and poor standards compliance modern hardware is starting to display. And we're talking about PCs. Let's not even discuss mobiles. In 2012 I bought a MacBook Air to run Linux. It's a great silent machine with all Intel hardware, except the pretty poor quality Broadcom wireless card. It boots with any vanilla kernel, and everything just works. Except for poor wireless range. What machine can…

Dell XPS 13. Comes with Linux and the new model is very quiet (fans don't even spin with most tasks).

Seconded. I have a 9360 and I've had everything work out of the box with Ubuntu 17.04, 17.10,and 18.04. As well as Linux Mint 18.3.

Only downsides are Linux's generally patchy support for hidpi, some programs scale and others don't (opt for 1080p version or set resolution to 1080p). And also the placement of the webcam is a bit strange.

Battery life is good in Ubuntu, between 6 and 10 hours depending on use case.

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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Any problems with the 6th despite the sleep mode? Do you have the higher resolution version?

I do (unfortunately) have the HiDPI model. I personally don't care at all about more pixels on this machine, but I understand why people want this. HiDPI is kinda a mess in general on Linux, from my limited use cases. I run X11 with i3wm on Arch, and the application support is all over the place. `xrandr` seems unhappy with multiple monitors at different resolutions (as is my case at work, with external displays), it…

Have you tried setting `layout.css.devPixelsPerPx` to some multiplier like 1.5?

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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Didn't Lenovo used to get Thinkpads certified by Ubuntu and RH ? Did they give up on it ? That only leaves Dell as the other main vendor (not counting smaller niche players) that still gives a shit.

Edit: Looks like they still do, just that certification doesn't mean shit. This is more RH and Canonical's fault than Lenovo's. What's the point of certifying something if you can add a note (as Canonical did) that suspend/resume doesn't work.

https://access.redhat.com/ecosystem/hardware/3398131

https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201712-26045/

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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I do (unfortunately) have the HiDPI model. I personally don't care at all about more pixels on this machine, but I understand why people want this. HiDPI is kinda a mess in general on Linux, from my limited use cases. I run X11 with i3wm on Arch, and the application support is all over the place. `xrandr` seems unhappy with multiple monitors at different resolutions (as is my case at work, with external displays), it…

Have you tried setting `layout.css.devPixelsPerPx` to some multiplier like 1.5?

I find it's better to just zoom, FF seems to remember zoom levels by domain.

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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> It's worrying how obscure and poor standards compliance modern hardware is starting to display. The standards are too complex. I've spent thousands of dollars on ISO standards documents over the past several years.[1] The complexity of these documents is absurd. And I've never seen an implementation that came close to adhering to the entirety of the standard--everybody always takes shortcuts because it's not cost-e…

Taking one example... UEFI is supposed to replace BIOS, but that spec is a mess, and nobody gets it right. I don't have a solution to this problem to propose, other than to say, if you're in the position to influence specs that effect the design of hardware, or are the result of hardware design, please push for the simplest solution to the problem every chance you get . That said, huge amounts of complexity are added…

It would be easier if the specs were developed without the "help" of organizations that stand to gain nothing from complete interoperability and who are perfectly content with "works with Windows".
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