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Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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The fact that the script is open source is great, but I'd be extremely hesitant to download something that patches my laptop's boot sequence without a little more info and/or some comments in the code about exactly what it's doing. Yes, I can see the sed commands, but I have zero idea what it's actually replacing or with what.

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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post #7
post #4

Unnecessary headline editorializing. Could we have it changed to the original?

If you know why S3 does not work on some brands, the editorializing is not unwarranted. There was an active decision to remove working parts of the code. That is shameful.

Your other comment is the most upvoted right now because it brings useful technical information to the discussion on S0/S3 states. Anything else is just rehashing old arguments. Readers can take their own conclusions without being manipulated by incendiary editorializing.

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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It's probably because Lenovo's suspend feature relies on an unsigned binary blob from China sideloaded during system boot over an unsecure HTTP connection. Why anyone still trusts Lenovo enough for this sort of thing to come up as an issue is beyond me.

Citation on that? Never heard that before, and I own two ThinkPads (including a four-month-old T480).

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/security-failings-demonstrate-...

Or who could forget Lenovo's surveillance malware that performed man-in-the-middle attacks on SSL traffic? Seriously, these machines should be banned for sale in the U.S. on national security grounds.

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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post #4

Unnecessary headline editorializing. Could we have it changed to the original?

Yes, we've reverted the title from “ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2018: S3 Suspend Workaround for Linux (shame on Lenovo)”. The guidelines are clear about this, so submitters should please follow them.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation on that? Never heard that before, and I own two ThinkPads (including a four-month-old T480).

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/security-failings-demonstrate-... Or who could forget Lenovo's surveillance malware that performed man-in-the-middle attacks on SSL traffic? Seriously, these machines should be banned for sale in the U.S. on national security grounds.

Dell has done similar things in the past, too.

Intel has its ME, which is much worse than any of these.

AMD has its own ME-equivalent.

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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Trackpad also doesn’t work under Linux with the NFC model. Hardware wise the webcam and sound are beyond horrible. The fan curves are obnoxious and it still gets uncomfortably hot. It’s such a shame, I had high hopes for this laptop but it’s collecting dust in a drawer. Between the sleep states, track pad, thermal issues and throttling, poor audio visuals and battery life … the thing really should never have had that price point.

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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It's probably because Lenovo's suspend feature relies on an unsigned binary blob from China sideloaded during system boot over an unsecure HTTP connection. Why anyone still trusts Lenovo enough for this sort of thing to come up as an issue is beyond me.

Citation on that? Never heard that before, and I own two ThinkPads (including a four-month-old T480).

I'm assuming they're speculating/exaggerating.

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation on that? Never heard that before, and I own two ThinkPads (including a four-month-old T480).

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/security-failings-demonstrate-... Or who could forget Lenovo's surveillance malware that performed man-in-the-middle attacks on SSL traffic? Seriously, these machines should be banned for sale in the U.S. on national security grounds.

that link says nothing about

> Lenovo's suspend feature relies on an unsigned binary blob from China sideloaded during system boot over an unsecure HTTP connection

it talks about Lenovo Service Engine, Superfish, Lenovo Solution Center, and Lenovo Customer Feedback.

if you blow away the default install of windows, including the UEFI partition, and install (windows or linux or whatever) from scratch, how could any of those things affect you?

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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post #3

I planned to buy this laptop some time this year. Has lenovo stopped supporting linux as well as they used to? I've owned two lenovo laptops and loved them and planned to buy another. I'm also looking at dell laptops since their linux support is reportedly excellent.

I'd just get a Dell delevoper edition.

Re: Suspend for the X1 Carbon 2018 on Linux

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post #10
post #3

I planned to buy this laptop some time this year. Has lenovo stopped supporting linux as well as they used to? I've owned two lenovo laptops and loved them and planned to buy another. I'm also looking at dell laptops since their linux support is reportedly excellent.

My current laptop, the T450s, has full support for linux. My coworker uses a X270, which also seems to run Arch fine. I think it's just the X1 series with these issues.

Get a T or a W, they are fine, old-school corporate machines.

Carbon is the new, fashionable, Macbook-like device with soldered-on RAM, etc; likely from a different design culture. Its biggest upside is likely the hi-res screen.

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