A few months ago Intel pulled a stunt where they showed a 28 core 5GHz CPU, implying it was a production CPU that would ship this year. They failed to mention that it was attached to an industrial compressor to supply the necessary cooling for the overclocked CPU, and that it was a server socket ( https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-det... ). Since then, whenever I see a headline with Intel in it…
Intel’s High-End Cascade Lake CPUs to Support 3.84 TB of Memory per Socket
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It's a beast! I'm not sure if I'd give up single-thread speed, but if you can load those cores, it's an incredible offer.
I'd love to see more popular processors with high core count, even if at the cost of single thread performance. When even a phone CPU has 8 cores, being able to use the parallelism on the stuff we normally don't use it would improve life for everyone. And, with high core counts, we can start playing with things like dedicating cores (and their L1 caches) to single tasks, kind of specializing them as we do with mainfr…
that is why I tend to eye the ~6 core machines for desktop use, higher single core mhz on them
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Case in point: > chips will support up to 3.84 TB of memory per socket ... due to combining 512 GB Optane DIMMs and 128GB DDR4 DIMMs > ... > in a 6 x Optane and 6 x DDR4 configuration, they will provide 3072 GB of 3D XPoint memory and 768 GB of DDR4 RAM for a total of 3.84 TB of memory Optane DIMMs don't really have the performance characteristics of traditional DRAM. It sounds like the real capacity per socket is 12…
Intel keep positioning optane as "close to dram" preformance (especially with misleading marketing nonsense like this), it does have some advantages over flash, mostly related to random access times, but its nowhere near the orders of magnitude more preformant that something would require to fill the preformance point between DRAM and SSDs. Optane is almost entirely hype, with no substance.
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#46I've weighed up the pros and cons, and my next processor will be the 32 core AMD cpu. This seems much better value than anything Intel has to offer.
The last gen 1900x (3.8 GHz 8 core) is on sale now for only $300 AMD becoming competitive again is one of the better things to happen in tech in recent years
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Threadripper may come close in core count, but it cannot use registered memory, which means it's limited to 128 GB of RAM (based on the current maximum UDIMM capacities). That's not competitive in the server space.
Why does threadripper need to be competitive in the server space? Edit: emphasis on threadripper , which is a consumer product.
Servers is also where you get back-and-forth discussions with customers large enough to be worth listening to. Getting useful feedback from the users of desktop CPUs is difficult and time-consuming. But someone like Facebook or Google, who buy thousands of CPUs, and know how to use them, can give you quick and reliable feedback. They can test prototypes and suggest changes within weeks.
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Yeah, marketing lies. Go AMD go!
AMD is guilty of it as well. "AVX2" -> not really! But yes I do wish them well. Make the avx support real AMD!
What makes this not real AVX? Because there is not one dedicated 256-bit unit?
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#49A few months ago Intel pulled a stunt where they showed a 28 core 5GHz CPU, implying it was a production CPU that would ship this year. They failed to mention that it was attached to an industrial compressor to supply the necessary cooling for the overclocked CPU, and that it was a server socket ( https://www.anandtech.com/show/12932/intel-confirms-some-det... ). Since then, whenever I see a headline with Intel in it…
that damaged your trust? That seems totally fine to me, if you need 28 cores at 5Ghz you can have it. get a server board and cool it. Years before that they were interfering with compilers and cheating at benchmarks to screw over AMD which was actual, willful, evil deception, but THIS damaged your trust?
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#50Cores! Gigahertz! Terabytes! Odds are... still f-ing busted. How will the numbers look after the next Spectre/TLBleed/etc patch? I'd be more impressed by a boring processor that works.