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Re: Twitch streamers who spend years broadcasting to no one

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Post by fabatka » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 10:47 AM UTC

Merem wrote: post #153

scrooched_moose wrote: post #13

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I'm not very familiar with Twitch, but isn't the community interaction (text/voice chat?) a large component of it? I'd imagine these streamers would be very interested in chatting with the 1 or 2 people who stopped by their stream. If the bots can't respond they'd be found on pretty quick, and making bots who can pass some sort of "video game specific Turing test" is a major endeavor. Only getting instantly recogniza…

Yes and no. The thing is, the majority of the viewers usually doesn't write to the streamer. They simply watch the stream, nothing more. So having five real viewers but no one is writing anything (or answering) is definitely possible. Still, interacting with viewers is where it gets interesting and it is live-streaming after all, so that's actually the point (otherwise you could just create a video and upload it some…

I would think that the ratio of "interactive" viewers is higher for streams with less viewers (because of the different atmosphere, non-professional streamers being able to interact more personally with the audience...).

Re: Twitch streamers who spend years broadcasting to no one

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Post by skate22 » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 11:10 AM UTC

metalliqaz wrote: post #14

What I don't understand about Twitch is how anyone has time to consume this content. When it comes to sitting on your butt and watching something, the traditional TV show is moving to an on-demand model. Twitch is a step in the other direction, where if you faithfully consume content from any Twitch channel, you have to sit down and watch for hours every night when the streamer is online. Who does that? I imagine it'…

For competitive games, watching a rank 1 player do their thing will save you much more time when climbing rating than trying to figure it out alone. Sure there are guides and videos, but that really doesnt do the same justice.

Even just watching how a high performing esports team communicates in real time is pretty interesting.

It's down right impressive at how much some people can process in real time.

Also, i find it super entertaining to watch very skilled people do somthing that they enjoy. I might watch 1 hour of tv a week, but probably 2-3 hours of twitch in small intervals (30 mins here and there)

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Post by nickjj » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 11:13 AM UTC

corobo wrote: post #324

cf498 wrote: post #320

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LegendOfTotalWar said something similar about how the tone of his voice changed by just talking a lot more while recording campaign after campaign.

Yeah I think it’s a combo of straight up talking a lot but also really listening to how you talk when editing together a video I found myself really disliking how I spoke when editing the videos because it was a real pain to make my voice heard using all sorts of compression and volume normalisation It was a decent insight into how others may be hearing me (or not, as the case was)

That could also be your microphone set up too.

My voice changed -drastically- in 3 years of creating online video courses, and while things like confidence levels have gone up (tone / etc.) there's also been technical improvements too (better mic / audio settings). My audio settings now are very basic. I just speak at a casual volume straight into the mic and do very little audio processing (just a noise gate and a tiny amount of compression).

A good gauge for improvement is how long you can go in a single cut. I still script a lot of my content just to gather my thoughts (I feel it makes for a better end result, even if I don't stick to the script 100%).

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Post by michaelt » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 11:21 AM UTC

wingerlang wrote: post #330

mlinsey wrote: post #105

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I watch Twitch because I grew up playing lots of video games and now watching is less of a time commitment then playing the games. Streamers aren't meant to be consumed by watching them every day for hours on end. I mean, I'm sure there are core fans who do that, probably students and single young professionals like you say, but my use case for Twitch is "hey, I have 10-20 minutes free; not even enough time for a ful…

> Meanwhile I wonder how people have time to finish entire seasons of TV shows on netflix, given the modern trend of story-driven shows that assume you've actually seen all the previous episodes instead of pre-internet-era sitcoms that you could jump in and watch any 30-minute episode with little context. Twitch is more of a return to old-school TV in that regard. Is this really true? I know I watched random episodes…

  Is this really true?

Look at The Simpsons, for example. No matter what anyone does in episode N, the world is reset at the start of episode N+1.

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Post by jlebrech » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 11:43 AM UTC

is there a way to see which games people want to watch and compare that to your library and get a suggestion?

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Post by mkirklions » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 11:50 AM UTC

0xffff2 wrote: post #268

mkirklions wrote: post #139

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This sounds like the twitter Financial Independence blogging community. People with 0 new advice, rehashing the same old credit card rewards and budgeting advice. Its so terrible that there are people claiming 'frugal ways to eat' and claim 50$/week per person for food is frugal. A single google search would tell you that under 30$/week is a good goal. This drives me crazy because we are eating for 20$/week and actua…

This is tangential, but what's a good starting point for "frugal ways to eat"? I'm not even remotely interested in getting down to $30/week, but my current budget is "not to exceed" $30/ day , and I probably average around $20/day, and I generally cook at least one meal per day at home. Even in a week where I only at food cooked at home I can't imagine getting under $70/week. I'm curious what I would have to give up…

Check this out http://efficiencyiseverything.com/food/

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Post by mkirklions » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 11:50 AM UTC

xenihn wrote: post #241

mkirklions wrote: post #139

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This sounds like the twitter Financial Independence blogging community. People with 0 new advice, rehashing the same old credit card rewards and budgeting advice. Its so terrible that there are people claiming 'frugal ways to eat' and claim 50$/week per person for food is frugal. A single google search would tell you that under 30$/week is a good goal. This drives me crazy because we are eating for 20$/week and actua…

What's your website?

http://efficiencyiseverything.com/

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Post by testies » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 12:03 PM UTC

grogenaut wrote: post #112

metalliqaz wrote: post #14

What I don't understand about Twitch is how anyone has time to consume this content. When it comes to sitting on your butt and watching something, the traditional TV show is moving to an on-demand model. Twitch is a step in the other direction, where if you faithfully consume content from any Twitch channel, you have to sit down and watch for hours every night when the streamer is online. Who does that? I imagine it'…

I work for Twitch but I'll put it in old man terms: I have a subscription to MLB.tv. I watch EVERY SINGLE game of my team each year, that's 162*3 = 486 hours a year. That's 27% of a 1800 hour work year. If you go in season, that's 54%. It's on all day every day that I'm at my work desk. I watch Twitch the rest of the year. Do I watch it intently? No. Do I know the score and what's going on? Generally. Do I feel I fol…

I imagine many here would kill for some peace and quiet at work. The idea that I'd want to add noise and conversation into it is horrifying to me personally.

Even at home, I would never want to have some random thing blaring in the background. I only watch things that are worth my full attention.

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Post by ForRealsies » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 12:12 PM UTC

_4ziu wrote: post #299

bumholio wrote: post #95

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It's a story as old as the world: trying to get noticed while doing essentially the same thing as the successful kids, but lacking that essential element of luck or genetics, that last second on the chronometer, that "in" preexisting social circle. It's the life of all those trying to enter into high risk, highly coveted careers that afford celebrity: authorship, sports, politics, music or film. The field might be ch…

The problem is trying to do the exact same thing as someone else. There has never been a business or method of making money in the history of capitalism that has survived by being an exact copy of another business or method. Even businesses with the same model as a bigger one, eg: small vs large car repair businesses, are able to function by having a different pricing point, location, etc. No one seems to understand…

I agree, big fan of Creatives finding their niche. People in general have a tendency to half-ass everything. Find a niche, find the dedicated userbase that is so starving for content that they consume the aforementioned half-assed work happily. Then serve them up a Filet Mignon and blow their minds.

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Post by Dzugaru » Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 12:12 PM UTC

BigJono wrote: post #298

jrockway wrote: post #225

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Depends on the game. I have watched Dota 2 games and have absolutely no idea what anyone is doing or why. I tried playing HOTS and even the tutorial couldn't explain to me what a MOBA is. I think a lot of Twitch is not competitive games like Dota or Overwatch and are really casual games that anyone can understand. I never played Portal 2 cooperative but can easily understand what's going on if someone is streaming it…

This is why I've always thought Rocket League would take off in a big way, it's as trivial to understand as most physical sports. So far I've been proven wrong, but who knows, maybe it'll turn around.

Rocket league was meh for me, but then I tried Oculus’s Echo VR zero-gravity soccer - and it’s unbelievably good. Having real physical competitive sport in your room anytime, instantly - it’s like a dream came true.

Not quite watchable on streams and videos currently because first person view on 2d screen is erratic and horribly flat - but I hope games like this is the future.