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Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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It seems as if Netflix is focusing on quantity instead of quality lately...their original content isn’t as compelling as it used to be.

Sacred Games and Secret City (among others) are far more well-done than most other recent offerings from other providers imnsho. Hulu has The Handmaid's Tale and HBO has Westworld but that's about it.

Hulu has preacher!

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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When Disney will launch their streaming service in late 2019, Netflix will be in deep trouble. If Disney is allowed to aquire Fox, they will have such a massive (and exclusive) catalogue, that Netflix will simply be too expensive. Netflix Originals are not too bad but also not exceedingly good and I personally wouldn't pay 11€/mo for them.

They will have the technology side covered [1] but they have to nail the pricing/catalogue/UI mix to succeed. However Disney has the resources (time/$/talent) to go at it until they take down Netflix.

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/9/16118694/disney-bamtech-es...

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

#73
I don't know if anyone else does this, but I subscribe to netflix for a while, then I hit a wall of "nothing to watch" and new content that I'm interested in dribbles out too slowly. So I unsubscribe and subscribe with a different streaming service, and watch their content for a bit, then go to another, and then eventually come back to netflix. If it's been long enough I also get free trials for another month also :)

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only does this statement not make any clear sense (why does English speaking #s affect price of the service?) but India has the second largest English speaking population in the world.

>but India has the second largest English speaking population in the world. irrelevant when that equates to 10% of the population.

That is probably the most insightful comment here. Who realizes india would have the second most. If Indian had the same income levels as the west the English market alone could challenge the US.

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With Netflix, there doesn’t seem to be any amount of seeing something and not clicking on it that ever gets the system to stop showing it to me. Every time I log in, there’s a big wall of 20 posters I’ve seen a thousand times and never clicked on once and have zero interest in. And the whole user experience seems about finding my way around that wall. I can find stuff I’m interested in, but the platform never surface…

Heh ... same here. I'm baffled after all their supposed AI with competitions and all, it actually sends me emails pitching me to watch shows that I already watched end-to-end and finished. I couldn't think of a clearer or simpler signal to an algorithm than "they already watched it" but apparently Netflix isn't able to pull that off.

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Total anecdote: Kinda sucks when shows leave Netflix and don't get replaced; half the appeal of Netflix is the ability to quickly switch between Futurama and Always Sunny, and more importantly to be able to watch those shows on a platform that doesn't completely suck (FX's app has got to be one of the worst apps I've ever used). When "Parts Unknown" was about to leave Netflix, I really questioned whether it was worth…

Adding my own anecdote: I cancelled Netflix a while ago, I hadn't been watching it for a while but assumed the rest of my family was. Eventually got around to asking them and it turned out they hadn't used it in a while either. Turns out we all just kinda lost interest. I remember when streaming first came out I was excited to "see what's on streaming," it felt like so much content to explore. Then it gradually becam…

There is a paradox of choice, for sure. I remember when my first car had a 6cd changer in the trunk... I could listen to the same couple of albums for weeks. Now ten million songs at my fingertips and sometimes you just don’t feel like dealing with it

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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post #8

Total anecdote: Kinda sucks when shows leave Netflix and don't get replaced; half the appeal of Netflix is the ability to quickly switch between Futurama and Always Sunny, and more importantly to be able to watch those shows on a platform that doesn't completely suck (FX's app has got to be one of the worst apps I've ever used). When "Parts Unknown" was about to leave Netflix, I really questioned whether it was worth…

Happened to me with Amazon Prime as well.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16937290

The moment they announced the price hike, it's like something cracked in my rationalization to maintain the service, and every adverse complaint I've ever queued up in my mind against the service floated right to the top.

I'm on the verge of the same with Netflix. If I see a price hike, I'll quit just the same. They've been losing far more content than they've been adding.

...which I'd be happy to do. The production shops behind the prestige and niche films these streamers are lapping up for fixed fees (something like n% of budget paid to the production house, where n is a value over 100) are utterly crippling the production of quality titles that aren't things like event pieces or sequels.

As the good production houses dip because of the rates the streamers are paying, you're more frequently being left with new or inexperienced production houses filling the void, producers with less experience IDing the creatives (writing/acting/etc), finding directors who can cast successfully, doing accurate budgeting, etc.

I'll stop short of turning this into too much of a rant. Basically: the Netflixes and Amazons of the world have crippled the business case for an entire class of motion picture and subverted the quality of output in this class as a result.

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another anecdote: I’d have cancelled Netflix a while ago if my family wasn’t using it. Their UX has been on a steady decline for me: - Audio previews make it so I never want to browse for what to watch next. I hate having to fumble with my tv/home theatre remote because of this. - If you leave it hanging, the previews count towards a watch! Wow. God help you if you wanna make some popcorn. - Their sorts are always sh…

I share your observations, but wanted to add the their browsing system is just bonkers. Discovery is impossible — imo they overoptimize for engagement and make it hard to explore the catalog. I find out about many new shows via PR placements in newspapers.

Try one of the standalone discovery sites. These improve this aspect a lot. I'm using Flixboss (https://flixboss.com).

Re: Netflix shares decline after reporting disappointing subscriber growth

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post #73

I don't know if anyone else does this, but I subscribe to netflix for a while, then I hit a wall of "nothing to watch" and new content that I'm interested in dribbles out too slowly. So I unsubscribe and subscribe with a different streaming service, and watch their content for a bit, then go to another, and then eventually come back to netflix. If it's been long enough I also get free trials for another month also :)

Yeah I keep opening Netflix nowadays and I click around for a while and have not much interesting to watch. There is a lot of STUFF, but it's not worth my time.
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