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Re: Fakebook: A tool exploring the 2016 U.S. election Facebook ads bought by Russia

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This doesn't really communicate anything. All the examples are something of this ad about americans liking cars was targeted to americans who like cars. I don't at all deny Russia meddling, but the website does a poor job at showing what they were trying to influence. Example: This ad targeted people interested in same-sex marriage and 12 more. We speak for all fellow members of LGBT community across the nation. How…

I'm taking a wild guess here: The ads look like they were intended to drive traffic to pages, which would be the real 'meat' of the campaign. The ads themselves aren't very interesting. Also, the image data is missing. A lot of these are non-sequiturs without the picture.

It's just terrible UX. The images show if you hover over the camera icon (assuming something else isn't broken for you). E.g. the car example is a picture of the General Lee (or something similar with the Confederate flag on top of it).

The south rising again is a giant confederate flag. Etc.

Re: Fakebook: A tool exploring the 2016 U.S. election Facebook ads bought by Russia

#24
post #8

This doesn't really communicate anything. All the examples are something of this ad about americans liking cars was targeted to americans who like cars. I don't at all deny Russia meddling, but the website does a poor job at showing what they were trying to influence. Example: This ad targeted people interested in same-sex marriage and 12 more. We speak for all fellow members of LGBT community across the nation. How…

So the long standing rumor is that Russia influenced the US election through Facebook. Okay, fine.

You know what I want to hear about? The wealthy Americans who used Facebook to influence the US election. If Facebook can be used in this way, I think looking at what Russia did is interesting, but it’s not the only story! The story is, people are subtly and quietly influincing our elections! Shouldn’t we look closely at everyone who did that? Not solely the Russian bogeyman?

Re: Fakebook: A tool exploring the 2016 U.S. election Facebook ads bought by Russia

#25
post #11
post #6

I find the irony in so many Americans being outraged at a foreign state influencing another state's elections to be deliciously intoxicating.

I think it’s mostly redirecting dissatisfaction. Dems waaay underperformed and need to find a scapegoat rather than look internally and see why people switched. But no, they rather blame others, be they foreign or even within the party: right now the Dems can’t decide if they are 1980s Dems or 1920s Workers Partiers.

> Dems waaay underperformed and need to find a scapegoat rather than look internally and see why people switched.

Switching was (as always) much less significant than turnout.

And the previously absolutely dominant neoliberal faction of the Democratic Party hasn't made a lot of substantive (and even more symbolic) concessions to the anti-establishment progressive faction of the party because of a sudden outburst of generosity.

Just because Democrats (and plenty of Republicans, though mostly it's only the ones not currently in elective office, or on their way out, that talk strongly about it) notice and are outraged about foreign interference doesn't mean that they aren't aware of and actively seeking to address other issues that hurt them in 2016. There's nothing stopping them from doing both.

Re: Fakebook: A tool exploring the 2016 U.S. election Facebook ads bought by Russia

#26
post #8

This doesn't really communicate anything. All the examples are something of this ad about americans liking cars was targeted to americans who like cars. I don't at all deny Russia meddling, but the website does a poor job at showing what they were trying to influence. Example: This ad targeted people interested in same-sex marriage and 12 more. We speak for all fellow members of LGBT community across the nation. How…

Turns out influencing people with seemingly small pieces of seemingly unconnected information is extremely effective. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQXe1CokWqQ (link to Darren Brown's Advertising Experiment)

Re: Fakebook: A tool exploring the 2016 U.S. election Facebook ads bought by Russia

#27
post #6

I find the irony in so many Americans being outraged at a foreign state influencing another state's elections to be deliciously intoxicating.

Then enjoy, but please don't post about it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Fakebook: A tool exploring the 2016 U.S. election Facebook ads bought by Russia

#28
post #8

This doesn't really communicate anything. All the examples are something of this ad about americans liking cars was targeted to americans who like cars. I don't at all deny Russia meddling, but the website does a poor job at showing what they were trying to influence. Example: This ad targeted people interested in same-sex marriage and 12 more. We speak for all fellow members of LGBT community across the nation. How…

So the long standing rumor is that Russia influenced the US election through Facebook. Okay, fine. You know what I want to hear about? The wealthy Americans who used Facebook to influence the US election. If Facebook can be used in this way, I think looking at what Russia did is interesting, but it’s not the only story! The story is, people are subtly and quietly influincing our elections! Shouldn’t we look closely a…

No, that’s nice but it’s a different issue. We already have plenty of inquiry into the influence of Americans with money on politics, with Citizens United and whatnot.

A hostile foreign government’s operations to propagandize Americans about politics is important to analyze.

Re: Fakebook: A tool exploring the 2016 U.S. election Facebook ads bought by Russia

#29
post #8

This doesn't really communicate anything. All the examples are something of this ad about americans liking cars was targeted to americans who like cars. I don't at all deny Russia meddling, but the website does a poor job at showing what they were trying to influence. Example: This ad targeted people interested in same-sex marriage and 12 more. We speak for all fellow members of LGBT community across the nation. How…

So the long standing rumor is that Russia influenced the US election through Facebook. Okay, fine. You know what I want to hear about? The wealthy Americans who used Facebook to influence the US election. If Facebook can be used in this way, I think looking at what Russia did is interesting, but it’s not the only story! The story is, people are subtly and quietly influincing our elections! Shouldn’t we look closely a…

Russia spend is estimated at $100k between 2015 and 2017, when Trump and Clinton spent $81M on Facebook alone.

I've spent more than the Russians did on Facebook ads, to think that amount of money was a deciding factor is pretty absurd.

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