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Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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Re: Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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post #57

In theory, If you are a CEO, and you knew your stock is in bubble, could you have leverage it and borrow as much as you could for low rate, say $200B or more for 2%, and use that buy whatever business when the bubble burst?

Yes, and likely in practice too, but in practice you would probably also run afoul of insider-trading laws.

Re: Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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post #31

If modern history goes back to the 1900s though, Rockefeller still has Bezos beat by more than double: "By the time of his death in 1937, estimates place his net worth in the range of US$300 billion to US$400 billion in adjusted dollars for the late 2000s (decade)." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wealthiest_historical_...

Time for Bezos to endow a university and some libraries? An earlier major technical university endowed by the richest person of the time is a pretty awesome place... (he says with no bias whatsoever. :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie

Nah, he says the only worthwhile end for his money would be space travel. The man who pays his employees so little that 40% of them are subsidised by the taxpayers (food stamps). The man who gained 50 billion dollars in less than a year.

This system simply does not work.

Re: Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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33% of that $150B came to him in 2018 alone (he started the year around $100B) and some people still claim that "we're not in a bubble".

I don't see how the wealth of one person, who's wealth is mainly shares in probably the most successful company in the US right now, indicates that we are in a bubble.

The guy made 100k$ off of each of his workers while abusing them this year alone, it is fucking outrageous.

Re: Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

can you please cite putin's monarchic ascendancy? i'm having trouble sourcing even the premise of your claim...

It's hard to nail down Putin's wealth, but some people estimate him to have assets worth somewhere between $10 and $50 billion. http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/

but nothing on him becoming a monarch? that's the alarming bit to me...

also, that link uses an unnamed source they themselves call "unreliable" to come up with 200M, as was the basis of the commenter's point.

Re: Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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Except we actually had a functioning federal government during the last gilded age, so we ended up with things like the Sherman Antitrust Act, and eventually the New Deal. I doubt we'll be so lucky this time around. Things are about to get absolutely brutal for the 90%.

Or the 1%. Something Rich people tend to forget is that the system of law and order we have now prevents armed uprising of the lower classes, which has a history of cropping up during very hard economic times. Not advocating, and I doubt I'd be one of them holding a pitchfork, but it is something to keep in mind.

Except nowadays even small local police departments have tanks and swat teams.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except we actually had a functioning federal government during the last gilded age, so we ended up with things like the Sherman Antitrust Act, and eventually the New Deal. I doubt we'll be so lucky this time around. Things are about to get absolutely brutal for the 90%.

Or the 1%. Something Rich people tend to forget is that the system of law and order we have now prevents armed uprising of the lower classes, which has a history of cropping up during very hard economic times. Not advocating, and I doubt I'd be one of them holding a pitchfork, but it is something to keep in mind.

https://news.stanford.edu/2017/01/24/stanford-historian-unco...

Re: Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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> Amazon is trying to do the same, but they haven't done so yet. They are not wildly profitable (if at all). They haven't monopolized online retail (and may never be able to do so). Please tell me you're being sarcastic. They're hiding profits and just plowing all the revenue back into the business while undercutting both competitors and their own employees.

I'm ex-Amazon and no, I'm not being sarcastic. It's an open question if Amazon will ever be able to raise prices and reap those promised profits without losing marketshare to the many players that would love to take them down. Right now I view Amazon as a very profitable web hosting company and a retail non-profit. Google and Microsoft, for comparison, were both much faster to get to monopoly-level marketshare. Amazo…

But a Monopoly on "stuff" and "moving stuff around" is a much more valuable Monopoly (pretty much by definition) than one in "eyeballs to advertise stuff to". Ultimately, the majority of Google's and Facebooks profits are from the advertisement of retail, services, and digital goods, which Amazon is trying (and doing very well) to monopolize. Sure, it may be harder to get there but the rewards are much better if you do.

Would you rather be Pullitzer (advertising magnate) or Vanderbilt (transportation)? I'll take the latter every time from a pure $$$ standpoint. Bezos is actually trying to be both.

Re: Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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That's crazy. Let's say the average home price in the U.S. is $200K. If this was cash, he could buy 750,000 houses. There's about 250 million people over 18 in the U.S. so Bezos could buy a house for roughly 1 in every 330 adults in the U.S.

That's just unfathomable.

Re: Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Amazon is trying to do the same, but they haven't done so yet. They are not wildly profitable (if at all). They haven't monopolized online retail (and may never be able to do so). Please tell me you're being sarcastic. They're hiding profits and just plowing all the revenue back into the business while undercutting both competitors and their own employees.

I'm ex-Amazon and no, I'm not being sarcastic. It's an open question if Amazon will ever be able to raise prices and reap those promised profits without losing marketshare to the many players that would love to take them down. Right now I view Amazon as a very profitable web hosting company and a retail non-profit. Google and Microsoft, for comparison, were both much faster to get to monopoly-level marketshare. Amazo…

Control is more valuable

Re: Jeff Bezos Becomes the Richest Man in Modern History, Topping $150B

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post #28

Reminds one of a couple of related posts: > When I worked at Amazon we had to run around the warehouse, bc if our pick rate fell below a certain number we stopped getting paid. There were bottles & bins full of piss at odd points, bc you were penalised for toilet breaks. A co-worker attempted suicide on-site bc of the stress Source: https://twitter.com/OwennnThomas/status/1007957414577090560 > Workers at Amazon wareh…

You'd think with all that cash Bezos could afford to pay his minions a humane rate.

But he just doesn't care.

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