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Ask HN: What do you do when you lose motivation?

#1
I'm not sure if you've been in this situation before but I'm going through it right. I'm building a product in my spare time while working on a full-time job, it's been very exciting when we started and things were great until I hit a tech problem few weeks ago, Its not all that difficult but some how I seem to have lost motivation, every time I want to work on it, I hit the wall and loose motivation. I want to know if any of you have been in this situation before and what you've done to break out of it.

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#2
Yeah, this happens to me all the time. I've managed to suss out a number of the factors for me, but based on everything else I've read on it, I've also learned that the factors, reasons, and responses are different for different people.

So, the short of it is, you'll have to figure this one out on your own, by figuring yourself out.

Here are some of the things that cause me to get lazy, and how I handle them:

1. Probably closest to what's going on for you, I will occasionally be working on a project and then hit a problem that I wasn't anticipating. It seems like my motivation goes through the basement, but what's actually going on is that I'm just chewing on the problem, turning it over and over in my head. Eventually -- days, weeks, or months, depending on the problem -- I will find the extra insight or information I needed and the whole thing will fall together. I try not to stress out over this any more; if the project doesn't have a deadline, then I let it stall more-or-less indefinitely. If it does have a deadline, I try to adjust the deadline accordingly. If I can't adjust the deadline, or it just really needs to get done, then I try to work around the roadblock by implementing a "good enough" solution. I have trouble working on project steps out-of-order, so even if I don't have to solve a particular problem in some project before proceeding, the project will still usually stall.

2. I've lost interest. In this case, the best thing is just to come to terms with giving up on the project, and I do this by realizing that there are many projects that I would actually be interested in working on, and there's no reason to beat myself up over something I don't care about.

3. I'm exhausted. The best thing to do here is go out and eat a good meal (I don't tend to cook very well), go for a walk, read a book, re-connect with some friends, and take a nap or get a full night's sleep.

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#4
Oh man, it's a constant struggle. The implementation is always more complex and seems to take longer than first anticipated.

I would say personal expectations matters a lot. I tend to play out big visions in my mental theater in a very conceptual sense, then get hyped up with excitement and finally get disappointed every time I hit a brick because it feels like taking several steps back.

But again this is about personal expectations/attitude towards these discoveries. Objectively, it is a good thing you have found a flaw/difficulty/problem. They are a natural thing in the development process.

I have learned, through experience, to take it calmer and understand that even simple concepts might hide complicated implementation details and take time to get done properly.

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#5
1. Find something small, even unimportant, to work on. It feels rewarding just to keep moving forward, and that makes it easier to go back to tackling something big.

2. Step away from the keyboard and do something else entirely, even goofing off. Sooner or later, you'll be consumed by a burning desire to move your project forward, and you'll probably benefit from a fresh perspective. (If this lasts more a day or two, see #1).

Above all, remember that guilt, stress, and burnout seldom help you get from A to B. Keep calm and carry on.

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#6
This is why part-time doesn't work for most of us. When you hit these walls you know (unconsciously at least) that you don't really have to keep going. Giving up is always an option.

So the fix is simple: make it more painful to give up than to keep going. Your inborn human psychology will take care of the rest.

You can try to treat the symptoms, but I think that's the real root of the problem. It's definitely one I've faced myself and know a few people well enough to know it was a problem for them.

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#7
post #5

1. Find something small, even unimportant, to work on. It feels rewarding just to keep moving forward, and that makes it easier to go back to tackling something big. 2. Step away from the keyboard and do something else entirely, even goofing off. Sooner or later, you'll be consumed by a burning desire to move your project forward, and you'll probably benefit from a fresh perspective. (If this lasts more a day or two,…

To further your first point, since this is what I often do. When planning out the project and its timeline and fitting in what needs to be done, I will manage the tasks so that big and small tasks are alternated.

For example, I will schedule time to tackle a hard back-end problem, the results of which aren't easily visible (except perhaps for better performance, scalability, or correctness), knowing that this will suck the motivation out of me. After that I can look forward to some easy tasks like refactoring or adding some new features to the GUI or something trivially easy and which provides immediate feedback (GUI stuff usually does this).

With time management like this you can work through the hard stuff with cool stuff to look forward to, and during the cool stuff, regain motivation to work on the next hard task.

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#8
This is the A-Number-1 reason for having a cofounder. Inevitably, you're going to get burnt out, you're going to lose faith. It's at those moments that you talk to your co-founder and he tells you why you're out of you're fucking mind, that this thing you're building together is going to be amazing. And you get re-energized.

And two days later, you'll be doing the same for your co-founder :)

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#10
I feel like almost anyone can empathize with this problem. A few points, which echo some of the other comments:

- Relish the small victories. Write down detailed-ish milestones that represent real progress. Checking them off can be a huge motivating force.

- Don't give yourself a way to back out. You can do this by quitting your full-time job (!), or more practically by telling people you know what you're doing. This has two positive effects: a) you'll get valuable feedback, and b) it won't be as easy to give up because others are expecting you to do what you said you'd do.

- I've got a list of Youtube videos that I like and find motivating. Here's a link to my list, but you've probably got your own as well: http://www.onwardly.com/category/get-pumped-up . Relatedly, I also get a lot of inspiration from others who have done amazing things in different fields.

- I'm not an engineer, so this may not apply, but it helps me to have multiple parts of a project I can work on at once. Its nice to switch modes sometimes between future-planning, marketing, working on the financials, etc.

These are just a few suggestions, hope they help.

As a last thought, getting through this period is what often separates the wheat from the chaff. Also, I recommend Seth Godin's "The Dip".

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