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What I Learned Working for Steve Ballmer

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> like Marissa Mayer did to Yahoo Sorry to nitpick, but for some reason this comment irks me. Your comment seems to imply that yahoo was healthy, they hired Mayer, and then Yahoo died as a result. Yahoo was a sinking ship, and it would have been a tough turn around for anyone. Not that I think Mayer was the world’s best CEO or anything, but the idea that she “killed” yahoo seems absurd. It’s like accusing a surgeon o…

Yahoo was behind, agreed! They had so many opportunities to sell though. Microsoft was willing to buy Yahoo at a huge premium and it didn’t go through. Good for MSFT. In ER terms, the surgeon could have cut the leg off and saved the person, but got a bit too greedy and ended up killing the person by trying to save everything.

Just to be clear, Microsoft tried to buy Yahoo for $45 billion in 2008, long before Marissa Mayer was CEO.

As the parent comment notes, your previous comment seems to suggest some kind of causation between Mayer’s tenure as CEO and the eventual breakup and sale of Yahoo. This is the fallacy known in poker as “resulting”.

Nicholas Carlson’s “Marissa Mayer and the Fight to Save Yahoo” is a fair account of her first few years at Yahoo. Keep in mind that when she joined, there was something like a total dozen mobile engineers at Yahoo. The company had burned through 3 CEOs in a decade, etc.

Mayer was not a perfect CEO in terms of strategic vision or her choice of acquisition targets, but I don’t think her time as CEO was particularly bad either.

Re: What I Learned Working for Steve Ballmer

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yahoo was behind, agreed! They had so many opportunities to sell though. Microsoft was willing to buy Yahoo at a huge premium and it didn’t go through. Good for MSFT. In ER terms, the surgeon could have cut the leg off and saved the person, but got a bit too greedy and ended up killing the person by trying to save everything.

Just to be clear, Microsoft tried to buy Yahoo for $45 billion in 2008, long before Marissa Mayer was CEO. As the parent comment notes, your previous comment seems to suggest some kind of causation between Mayer’s tenure as CEO and the eventual breakup and sale of Yahoo. This is the fallacy known in poker as “resulting”. Nicholas Carlson’s “Marissa Mayer and the Fight to Save Yahoo” is a fair account of her first few…

I believe I got my facts wrong. Thanks for changing my perspective.

Re: What I Learned Working for Steve Ballmer

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I'll add one more: https://www.fool.com/investing/2016/09/06/microsoft-stock-hi... Take a look at the chart. Ballmer was CEO from January 2000 to February 2014.

> Take a look at the chart. ...and keep in mind that it doesn't capture the money paid out in dividends for over a decade.

Yeah, wasn't there some kind of thing as "splits" which skews the stock price? Or is that it?
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