Programmer. Works every time. No one has ever asked me to explain what it means.
Ask HN: Explain to non-techies what you do: Programmer? Developer? Engineer?
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Re: Ask HN: Explain to non-techies what you do: Programmer? Developer? Engineer?
#32Visitors to this country are often surprised to find that Americans like to begin a conversation by asking "what do you do?" I've never liked this question. I've rarely had a neat answer to it. But I think I have finally solved the problem. Now, when someone asks me what I do, I look them straight in the eye and say "I'm designing a new dialect of Lisp." I recommend this answer to anyone who doesn't like being asked…
The usual opening question in Ireland is "where are you from", and it's similarly awkward to answer for me (I'm not really from anywhere specific). If you're a foreigner in Ireland, the follow-up question is often "when are you going back?" - not intended in a xenophobic sense, but rather an assumption that one wouldn't want to leave one's home area for the rest of your life. But I'm not sure there really are better…
Re: Ask HN: Explain to non-techies what you do: Programmer? Developer? Engineer?
#33We all know something about every industry and every line of work, or at least have the interest to inquire about it (if not for anything else, because we're completely ignorant of it.)
Share what you know, show interest, and shut up.
Allow people to see you under their own favorite lights. If you can hold a conversation with a scientist just fine, no need to tell him you're an entrepreneur. And if a business man likes your management acumen and eye for the market, no need to call yourself a code-monkey. You're all of the above, but keep the conversation at their pace, ask questions from most general to more specific, and let them categorize you through the course of a mutually comforting conversation.
This is why you don't jump into an elevator pitch with everyone you meet, just because you got an idea and a GoDaddy domain.
Re: Ask HN: Explain to non-techies what you do: Programmer? Developer? Engineer?
#34Depends who I'm talking to. If its someone at college (say, at a party), I say that I play with my iPhone all day. If they ask for clarification, that I make iPhone applications. Usually at this point, whoever I'm talking to will say something like "So you write stuff on the computer for the iPhone?" and I nod. The alternative is usually "Software Engineer" or "iPhone Developer", depending on where I am and how speci…
Re: Ask HN: Explain to non-techies what you do: Programmer? Developer? Engineer?
#35A related question I struggle with - how to explain to other people how qualified you are? You and I could both say we "know" Java but there's probably a big difference there. It's really hard without showing them your work.
When non-techies ask what you do, they are probably not trying to determine if you're qualified to build a CRM system for them.
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#36Re: Ask HN: Explain to non-techies what you do: Programmer? Developer? Engineer?
#37Programmer. Works every time. No one has ever asked me to explain what it means.
Then again though it sounds like you're shutting down the conversation when people ask - that's probably not good.
If they're actually interested and want to hear more, they'll follow up more detailed questions.
I'm pretty sure it's the same for anyone with specialised/deep skills.
Re: Ask HN: Explain to non-techies what you do: Programmer? Developer? Engineer?
#38I always explain it as, theres a pretty part of the website that everyone sees and the clever bit of the website that no one sees, i do the clever bit. Which usually satisfies their curiosity, since they then probably think its very boring, which i suppose it is to them.
Without fail though, pretty much everyone assumes i can fix their printer etc...
Re: Ask HN: Explain to non-techies what you do: Programmer? Developer? Engineer?
#39I always say 'Software Developer'. If you say, 'Computer Programmer' then they picture someone tinkering with computers, if you say 'Developer' or 'Engineer' they don't know it's anything to do with computers or software. What really annoys me, is when people respond with 'Oh right, I.T.' or 'I have a friend who does I.T. too, yeah he fixes computers at... ' - I personally see being a 'Software Developer' as a far hi…
> What really annoys me, is when people respond with 'Oh right, I.T.' or 'I have a friend who does I.T. too, yeah he fixes computers at... ' You shouldn't let this get to you. These people are just trying to relate to you based on this new information. To someone outside an industry, most people in it can appear to do the same thing. Just think: how many types of airplane mechanics/portrait artists/theoretical physic…
- On a similar note, the word 'Hacker' on this forum, generally refers to someone who lives and breathes code. However, outside of this community many refer to the term 'Hacker' as being a malicious person.
Therefore, whenever I have mentioned the 'Hacker News' community to anyone in my profession they usually look at me as if I've just admitted to partaking in criminal activities. Perhaps it's just a British thing?
Re: Ask HN: Explain to non-techies what you do: Programmer? Developer? Engineer?
#40When I am asked at a party, I put more emphasis on what the software that I work on does than what I do at work.
Programmers are literally minded, we often assume that we must actually answer the questions that people ask us. This is not correct. When someone engages you in smalltalk, they are asking you to tell a story. It doesn't even have to be a true story... (although outright lying is probably ill advised.)
Giving a job title or generic description is painfully dull.