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At some point, there was also this undocumented feature where it fetches not just the directions, but a little extra data so it can reroute you on the device if you miss a turn and your phone has gone offline. It only works for small detours, does not take traffic into account, etc.
There's a paper on how this works from Microsoft Research and KIT (where all of the commonly used routing techniques were developed!): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/...
Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?
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https://maps.me/download/ (free for iOS and Android) let's you download countries for offline use. Includes search and car navigation. Based on OpenStreetMap data.
I just downloaded the app and opened it, and it showed me white, and told me I had to download my city first (56MB). I doubt you can download whole countries at that rate. Also, including the App that was a lot of downloading just to look at a single map.
What? GMaps alone is already 30MB and has to download all of its maps on the fly. What do you think, that Google alone has a magic way of making up maps out of thin air?
And of course you can download whole countries at once, Germany for instance is ca. 1GB, which is totally doable on your home WiFi.
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I think the $5/month he's envisioning is for the computing/bandwidth charges on the cloud providers he mentions. The software, container, images, etc. should all be provided for free, and the open source bug tracker should have a 1 second SLA for replying to questions on getting it set up. But on a serious note, yes, it would be nice if there was some pre-built container that just served the OSM tiles on an HTTP port…
> Google Maps is free for 25,000 map loads per day This statement is true for a few more hours. As the headlined article informs us, Google changes its pricing plan tomorrow, 2018-07-16. Instead of 25000 free loads per day, as of tomorrow people get USD200 credit per month, on accounts that now must be backed by credit cards (or have billing enabled). Google tells us that a credit of USD200 per month is equivalent to…
Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?
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Entire countries and continents are far more detailed on OSM than Google. There's a feedback cycle where having lots of active users to passively harvest data or receive user-submitted corrections from improves your map quality. Well, Google Maps is a really bloated app that can barely open on the budget Android phones people use in most developing countries (hell, GMaps pegs the CPU on a 2-year old flagship for seve…
It strikes me as obvious that what Google should do is support OSM upstream and use OSM data in their product, just as what they do with Wikipedia.
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#186I totally support OSM 1000%... But frankly, it seems it's still a lot of work to build OSM into your own website/app, setting up your own tile server. I know there are instructions for this [1] [2] -- but to really get popular, it seems like there really ought to be up-to-date, auto-updating, officially recommended and totally secure server images on Digital Ocean, AWS, Google Cloud and Azure where anyone can spin it…
We can’t really use google maps in the Danish public sector where I work, because they track your data. So we use osm and I think you’re daily spot on. I work in a small municipality so we don’t really have the resources to do the integration ourselves. What we did was find a company which specializes in making google maps like APIs/integration to osm as well as having a support line that can correct osm mistakes for…
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Cymraeg users often have a strong hatred of English language use, and users, and want to deny that Welsh counties were annexed in to England and want to try and hold back the tide wrt English language use in preference to Cymraeg. We get silly things in Wales like Cymraeg mono-lingual government announcements/adverts on the radio (accessible to about 7% [1] of the population vs c.100% if they were in English), motorw…
Cymraeg users often have a strong hatred of English language use, and users, Not my experience (English - Somerset based - with quite a lot of work and friends the other side of the bridges). If you show some respect towards others, I generally find it returned. They are also not users but speakers. The only time I find dual language to be a bit of a pain is in lifts: being told the doors are closing in two languages…
Re counties, there were established principalities in the West of the British mainland -- Gwynedd managed to subdue many of these other counties (ie independently governed areas), whilst paying fealty/homage to the English Crown, once Gwynedd had subdued Deheubarth and Powys and such, they (Llewellyn The Last) stopped paying the Crown. At which point Gwynedd was put down, handing their recent won territories over to be annexed to the "English" King's territories (Edward I).
I don't think the Welsh counties in general were divided in to hundreds until Henry Tudor (who also issued a writ demanding use of English across his whole territory). Hides and hundreds, like the words, are Anglo-Saxon I think?
AFAICT Gwynedd grew strong (post-Romans) by earlier conquest by Vikings and Irish-Scots.
You're right, the Norse, like the Romans before them didn't care what tribe you hung with, Wales is called that because it's the bit the Romans hadn't conquered yet (cf Walloons, Wallachia (? in Romania)); which is down to physical geography. Same with the Norse AFAICT. And the same in the other direction with why Gwynedd was able to conquer the principalities but not subdue the Marches or Pembrokeshire.
Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?
#188And if you can't use OSM, try Here maps. They are easy to download for offline use. Following the suggestion of friends, I have repurposed an old phone as a "travel phone" with maps of the whole world (or at least the parts I can download!) Not perfect, but when I catch a plane, I don't have to worry about local networks. Fun story: recently in Europe, Google Maps stuttered. Now and then, there was a networking issue…
Your anecdote falls into the trap I see often when comparing OSS software vs proprietary. You’ve found a obscure, uncommon use case where OSM works better. However, the opposite needs to be true for adoption. OSM needs to work better for 80% of the use cases, not the other 20.
Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?
#189I totally support OSM 1000%... But frankly, it seems it's still a lot of work to build OSM into your own website/app, setting up your own tile server. I know there are instructions for this [1] [2] -- but to really get popular, it seems like there really ought to be up-to-date, auto-updating, officially recommended and totally secure server images on Digital Ocean, AWS, Google Cloud and Azure where anyone can spin it…
We can’t really use google maps in the Danish public sector where I work, because they track your data. So we use osm and I think you’re daily spot on. I work in a small municipality so we don’t really have the resources to do the integration ourselves. What we did was find a company which specializes in making google maps like APIs/integration to osm as well as having a support line that can correct osm mistakes for…
Perfect example of stifling regulations hurting the average person.
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The problem is that there is no user-settable 'offline mode', so as soon as Google detects an Internet connection (even a very slow one) it starts trying to behave as if it's on a 100Mbps LTE connection. This makes many Google apps totally unusable on low-bandwidth networks. When you open apps like Hangouts, Google Maps, etc. on low-bandwidth connections, they immediately try to sync an onslaught of data before makin…
What are you talking about? There's literally a "WiFi only" toggle in Google Maps app.