Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
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Re: Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
#2What are the core features that differentiate Arc from other lisp dialects?
Re: Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
#3What are the core features that differentiate Arc from other lisp dialects?
To me, one of the most fundamental features of Arc is taking the unification of code and data much further. I don't know of other Lisps that do this! K is another language that does.
arc> (= l '(1 2 3))
(1 2 3)
arc> (= f [+ _ 1])
#
arc> (map l '(0 1 2))
(1 2 3)
arc> (map f '(0 1 2))
(1 2 3)Re: Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
#4What are the core features that differentiate Arc from other lisp dialects?
To me, one of the most fundamental features of Arc is taking the unification of code and data much further. I don't know of other Lisps that do this! K is another language that does. arc> (= l '(1 2 3)) (1 2 3) arc> (= f [+ _ 1]) # arc> (map l '(0 1 2)) (1 2 3) arc> (map f '(0 1 2)) (1 2 3)
Clojure’s maps, sets, and vectors are all functions.
Re: Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, one of the most fundamental features of Arc is taking the unification of code and data much further. I don't know of other Lisps that do this! K is another language that does. arc> (= l '(1 2 3)) (1 2 3) arc> (= f [+ _ 1]) # arc> (map l '(0 1 2)) (1 2 3) arc> (map f '(0 1 2)) (1 2 3)
Clojure’s maps, sets, and vectors are all functions.
First public release of Arc came not long after Clojure.
Clojure is definitely better thought out as a language, and while Arc has some interesting ideas around web development, it also doesn't have a module system, so everything is just loaded into the same global namespace, which is pretty insane.
Re: Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, one of the most fundamental features of Arc is taking the unification of code and data much further. I don't know of other Lisps that do this! K is another language that does. arc> (= l '(1 2 3)) (1 2 3) arc> (= f [+ _ 1]) # arc> (map l '(0 1 2)) (1 2 3) arc> (map f '(0 1 2)) (1 2 3)
Clojure’s maps, sets, and vectors are all functions.
It would be more correct to say that they can be coerced to a function with a special purposes (e.g. using a set as a function is an alias for checking whether an item exists).
To say they are functions would be incorrect. By the same logic, a keyword is would be a function.
Re: Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, one of the most fundamental features of Arc is taking the unification of code and data much further. I don't know of other Lisps that do this! K is another language that does. arc> (= l '(1 2 3)) (1 2 3) arc> (= f [+ _ 1]) # arc> (map l '(0 1 2)) (1 2 3) arc> (map f '(0 1 2)) (1 2 3)
Clojure’s maps, sets, and vectors are all functions.
Ah, that makes sense. The next main difference in my mind is ergonomic, but relies on this regularity: functional syntax for composition, negation, quoted application. There are also other syntax additions and in my experience they're well-chosen and go a long way.
Re: Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Clojure’s maps, sets, and vectors are all functions.
It would be more correct to say that they can be coerced to a function with a special purposes (e.g. using a set as a function is an alias for checking whether an item exists). To say they are functions would be incorrect. By the same logic, a keyword is would be a function.
They're callable as functions, i.e. they implement clojure.lang.IFn. So unless you want to shave hairs on what it means to say they're not "functions", they _are_ functions. Sets, vecs, maps, keywords, and IIRC symbols are all IFn
Oh and (#{1 2} 3) is equivalent to (get #{1 2} 3) not (contains? #{1 2} 3)
Re: Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
#9What are the core features that differentiate Arc from other lisp dialects?
If you take a look at the code for HN written in Arc, you can compare it against other Lisp dialects. I point to this as it is possibly the most widely-used and familiar application to most here written in Arc.
https://github.com/wting/hackernews
This is a great place to start with understanding Arc, as the jump to Anarki (an Arc fork) will make more sense as it comes bundled with News - a Hacker News style app - which is fun to play with if you have experience with HN and want to try a variation of this site.
Re: Anarki – Community-managed fork of the Arc dialect of Lisp
#10Am I understanding right that Arc is a Lisp-1, like Clojure?