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Re: Ask HN: Favorite note-taking software?

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Google Keep is free, has multiple subsections, and automatically syncs between my smartphone and my PC with no intervention on my part.

I would switch to Google Keep in an instant if it has a web clipper. I can't quite wrap my head around changing my workflow to do without one at this point. Probably should start paying Evernote to support them but still fall within their free tier (as much as they keep scaling that back).

Re: Ask HN: Favorite note-taking software?

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Workflowy is great for quick, structured, hierarchical note taking. It is basically a text only bulleted list of lists. Navigable by keyboard or mouse and syncs to whatever phone / desktop etc you have. Too expensive by half, and I don't think it is client side encrypted which is a deal breaker for anything sensitive. I really enjoy the simplicity though, great for checklists, writing papers, and all those little rar…

Can you please expand a bit more on your ideal note app? Results sound intriguing, but I can't imagine what it would look like from this short description.

Sure..

The idea is that the issue with tags is they can be difficult to trace to all their referenced locations. I find myself not using them because they are difficult to keep track of.. you can't 'see' them at a glance.

But we don't need to see all the referenced locations, just the tree which leads away from the item you are looking at. So you get strict split between, and easy to understand, [left / right], [hierarchy / reference] organisation. Would make it easy to position and re-reference information. And would let you see referencing visually. Below for a really rough idea of what I am talking about.

  - list 1 - sub-list 1 - item A  |  - sub-list 1 - list 1
                        - item B  | 
                        - item C  |  - sub-list 1
                                  |  \ sub-list 3 - list 2
           - sub-list 2 - item D  |  - sub-list 2 - list 1
                                  |  \ sub-list 3 - list 2
                        - item E  |  
                        - item F  |  - sub-list 4 - list 2
  - list 2 - sub-list 3 - item G  |  - sub-list 3 - list 2
                        - item C  |  - sub-list 1 - list 1
                                  |  \ sub-list 3 - list 2
                        - item D  |  - sub-list 2 - list 1
                                  |  \ sub-list 3 - list 2

Re: Ask HN: Favorite note-taking software?

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Yes, I have been fooled by the "oh it's just plain text" notion also and have regretted it. Did you try to actually open an org-mode file with anything else than Emacs? Did you try get any meaningful information out of it on a mobile phone or with an another editor? I did...

I've been opening org files with Atom, VS Code and inside Github without a problem.

Gogs renders well behaved org files also. The VS Code extension should get the update to allow folding soon. After that the Ctrl-c Ctrl-v crowd could use it nicely with Orgzly and Syncthing say bypassing Emacs until they need a full development environment. You could use Pandoc importing/exporting to other formats without Emacs. For note taking it's promising. Sharing to Orgzly on mobile captures a lot.

Re: Ask HN: Favorite note-taking software?

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If on the Mac ecosystem, Bear is Apple notes but with fewer sync bugs and more useful features (like a close cousin of markdown and amazing tagging). I've switched to that for notes that might stick around for a while (from Evernote and Apple notes, though I still forward emails into the former as a convenient archive). For transient notes (like shopping lists etc.) I just use drafts on iOS. Seems to work for me afte…

Bear lacks folders. Sure, it has tagging, but it's really a poor man's organization tool; for example, you can't create a new folder and then drag and drop a bunch of notes into it. Changing the "location" of multiple notes requires search and replace, something I don't think Bear even does (at least not the iOS version). Tags also clutter notes visually. Do you put them at the beginning? At the end? Either way you w…

You can actually drag and drop multiple notes into a tag, no find and replace necessary. Minor point though.

Re: Ask HN: Favorite note-taking software?

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If on the Mac ecosystem, Bear is Apple notes but with fewer sync bugs and more useful features (like a close cousin of markdown and amazing tagging). I've switched to that for notes that might stick around for a while (from Evernote and Apple notes, though I still forward emails into the former as a convenient archive). For transient notes (like shopping lists etc.) I just use drafts on iOS. Seems to work for me afte…

I'm not sure how long ago you tried Apple Notes but I've use it all the time now after trying many apps. I don't have any sync problems and it has good support for images, pen input, tables, styles etc. For anything more technical I use Quiver which supports MarkDown, code with pretty printing, LaTex and diagram markup, but it doesn't have an iPad editor (just reader).

I started to switch to Apple Notes a year ago, loved it, then discovered there is no good way to export all notes as text for backup.

Any suggestions?

Re: Ask HN: Favorite note-taking software?

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Google Docs for long-form notes (meetings, classes), Google Keep for short-form (grocery list, to-do, etc.). Nothing beats the fact I can use it instantly across all devices (not Apple-only) and it's free.

How do you organize the Google Docs? We use a lot of Google docs where I work and I've found looking for documents to be a struggle.

Re: Ask HN: Favorite note-taking software?

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If on the Mac ecosystem, Bear is Apple notes but with fewer sync bugs and more useful features (like a close cousin of markdown and amazing tagging). I've switched to that for notes that might stick around for a while (from Evernote and Apple notes, though I still forward emails into the former as a convenient archive). For transient notes (like shopping lists etc.) I just use drafts on iOS. Seems to work for me afte…

Does it support saving to sync.com?

Re: Ask HN: Favorite note-taking software?

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People are much too afraid of Emacs to ever use it.

> afraid That's quite the value judgement. Emacs, when compared with Atom and Sublime Text, has a tremendous learning curve for little payback. It's extensible? So are they, and with programming languages that are useful outside the editor, no less. It's powerful? So are they. And more, they implement something resembling a common UI to the rest of the applications on your system. Sure, you can emulate that with the…

You're ignoring distributions of Emacs which are designed to solve this problem by bundling and pre-configuring everything.

Spacemacs, Prelude, and Scimacs are all good options depending on your use-case.

I mean if all you want is a text editor, some SCM integration, some build tool integration, syntax highlighting, and code completion then going with a specialized tool just for that is a good choice.

But the power of Emacs is that it can do nigh-anything and everything is a few lines of elisp away from being tightly integrated.

* Organize your tasks and projects with org-mode and work seemelessly with your team by syncing with org-trello.

* Use mu4e and magit integration to seemelessly send and apply patches and pull projects and todo items directly from email.

* Use one of the IRC clients or emacs-slack to do the same thing. Generate snippets on the fly in your team's chat from the currently selected text.

* Use org mode with org-babel and TRAMP to create interactive notebooks carrying out tricky tasks directly on the remote server from within emacs.

* Use emacsclient --tramp when you're SSH'd on a remote box to transparently edit in your local emacs.

* Replace tmux and tmuxinator with emacs-server.

I don't realy think it's small step up.

Re: Ask HN: Favorite note-taking software?

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In that sense markdown is also proprietary, since you need some editor making things easy for you to manipulate and navigate the text document(that's all emacs does; even github renders org docs).

The big difference is that Markdown is way simpler, you can read it reasonably easy with Notepad even, and this is why every reasonable editor can Render it preview it, export it. Even browsers or small apps can show a HTML rendered markdown. There are even standalone Markdown editors, but there is no standalone org-mode editor.

This is a silly comment.

Of course you can read Orgmode in plain text, because that’s all it is. Maybe you looked at a file with a bunch of meta-data, or a file with a bunch of code blocks, but so what? Ignore the meta-data and just read the notes. They are all delimited by asterisks by their header level. Links are simple. Tables are simple, even tables with formulas are readable.

Further more Markdown is a poorly defined plaintext format, which is why there are so many variants of it, and processors specific to those variants. If you don’t believe me, remember that GFM is not official markdown.

Orgmode is at least well defined, so when other editors catch up and are able to implement all the features Emacs has when using it, they should behave similarly. If you want a well defined plain text format that exports to HTML/PDF/Word/RichText take a look at AsciiDoc or reStructuredText.

But don’t blame Emacs for leveraging its power over a relatively simple plain text format. There are even packages these days for Vim, Sublime, Atom, Jetbrains to make good use of Orgmode without Emacs.

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