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Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

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Re: Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

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The article starts with: > U.K. archeologists are crediting... And spends the rest of the article citing a researcher from University College Dublin. Ireland is not part of the U.K.

> a researcher from University College Dublin.

...who is British.

(Though I still think saying "U.K. archeologists" was a mistake)

Re: Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nit, but we know pretty well what the Neolithic structures were for now. It used to be the case that hey were a mystery.

So what were they used for? I thought it was still a mystery.

Celestial clocks for telling the seasons, and locations for convergent gatherings ever X seasons. The megalithic stone structures at least. The smaller but more numerous wooden pole circles (horseshoe shaped really) were centers of local villages, the Neolithic equivalent of a fort or medieval castle.

Re: Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

County Meath (where the "henge" was discovered) is in the Republic of Ireland...which is not Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is a province within the UK created after the partition of Ireland the landmass in 1921. Dublin is in the Republic of Ireland and the capital city. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Meath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Ireland

Thanks for being clear about the Republic of Ireland vs the landmass, unlike knolan!

You may find this useful. https://youtu.be/rNu8XDBSn10

Re: Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

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Interesting how there's also one of those little islands in the same field. Don't know what they're called but I've seen enough Time Team to know they sometimes hide archaeological treasure. Something either too cumbersome to move or something marked for preservation. Either way britain feels like a giant trove of discovery when you pay some attention to popular archaeology.

Sadly, there's so much of it in Britain[1] that we allow some of it to be destroyed. See, for example, this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11094744#11098678

[1] The article is about Ireland, not Britain.

Re: Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what were they used for? I thought it was still a mystery.

Celestial clocks for telling the seasons, and locations for convergent gatherings ever X seasons. The megalithic stone structures at least. The smaller but more numerous wooden pole circles (horseshoe shaped really) were centers of local villages, the Neolithic equivalent of a fort or medieval castle.

Unless you can produce a very strong source that those solutions are now considered universally to be true, I don't think you can say that to be definitely so.

Firstly, looking at the actual henge, though the defence hypothesis is strong, there are several henges throughout the UK that lack the defensive structuring, but still take the right form, making it at least partly unlikely. Secondly, they seem to have been built away from population areas. Whilst a strong theory, it hasn't solved those problems, and so other solutions hold equal weight.

Secondly, the celestial clock theory is actually fairly weak. Only about half of the henges featuring large stonework actually line up with astronomical events, even when modeled for the timelines we think they were put in place for. Some might be reasoned to track stars, some mountains, and so on. It doesn't quite fit, especially as their north-offsets are very consistent.

You have some theories, which are popular theories, but so far as I'm aware, there are other equally popular theories held by the people in the field, and this isn't considered to be 'solved'.

Re: Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

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This is of course Éire, not the U.K.. But the same is going on in the U.K. too.

* https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44746447 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17489990)

* https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44806069

* https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-4...

Things submerged under reservoirs are becoming temporarily accessible, as well.

* https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-44771632

* https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-4476...

Re: Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

#38
The article content isn’t too bad but having “crop circle” in the headline is ridiculous when the phenomenon of crop circles has nothing to do with the subject of the article. In addition, the article itself starts off with some mis-leading information.

It begins by implicitly indicating that “U.K. archeologists” were involved in the discovery (discussed in other comments). It also states that it was “drone enthusiasts” who captured the image in the first place. In fact, the drone belonged to an Irish historian, Anthony Murphy, who lives in the area and has been researching, recording images of and writing about the Boyne Valley monuments for the past two decades – so not just a random drone enthusiast. After making his discovery, he reported it to the National Monuments Service, an organisation that is part of the Republic of Ireland’s Department of Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht.

The coverage by the Irish Times is much better than the linked article:

* Initial report: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/scorched-earth-d...

* Follow-up article: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/newgrange-more-u...

Further background on Anthony Murphy: https://www.mythicalireland.com/about/about-anthony-murphy/

Re: Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for being clear about the Republic of Ireland vs the landmass, unlike knolan!

You may find this useful. https://youtu.be/rNu8XDBSn10

Posting youtube links without explaining why anyone should watch them is not considered useful by most HN people. I looked at the start, and it didn't seem useful for the issue at hand, which (to me) is that the Republic of Ireland and the landmass named Ireland are two different things.

The Republic of Ireland doesn't include Northern Ireland, which is part of the United Kingdom.

The landmass named Ireland does.

I'm surprised to see that you are still missing that, but, ok, as an American maybe I'm not really understanding what's going on.

Re: Crop circle reveals ancient ‘henge’ monument buried in Ireland

#40

The article content isn’t too bad but having “crop circle” in the headline is ridiculous when the phenomenon of crop circles has nothing to do with the subject of the article. In addition, the article itself starts off with some mis-leading information. It begins by implicitly indicating that “U.K. archeologists” were involved in the discovery (discussed in other comments). It also states that it was “drone enthusias…

I agree. In fact even the NYTimes AND the BBC do a way better reporting job on the exact same story than this canadian site. So, I'm thinking theres an imperial enthusiast on this canadian news sites editorial board? What the "U.K. Archaeologists" line had to do with the reporting of the story, when clearly it was Irish Archaeologists, one can only guess. Respect as a premise costs nothing.
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