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Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?

#111
I totally support OSM 1000%...

But frankly, it seems it's still a lot of work to build OSM into your own website/app, setting up your own tile server.

I know there are instructions for this [1] [2] -- but to really get popular, it seems like there really ought to be up-to-date, auto-updating, officially recommended and totally secure server images on Digital Ocean, AWS, Google Cloud and Azure where anyone can spin it up for $5/mo without even ever having to SSH in once (except to update the root password), and then embed a live JavaScript map into their web page with two lines of code -- one to load the library, and one to insert a live map of a given size centered on a given location. Where the whole process shouldn't take more than 10 minutes, and most of that is waiting for the image to be copied to your server.

I've Googled but I can't find anything like that -- with the links below, I assume I'd be using at least a day to set things up, especially since setting up servers from online tutorials never goes smoothly, as you have to google error messages that arise since newer versions have changed slightly since the tutorial was written... And most times where I just want to "throw in a map", I don't want to spend a day+ doing it.

[1] https://switch2osm.org/manually-building-a-tile-server-18-04...

[2] https://ircama.github.io/osm-carto-tutorials/tile-server-ubu...

Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your anecdote falls into the trap I see often when comparing OSS software vs proprietary. You’ve found a obscure, uncommon use case where OSM works better. However, the opposite needs to be true for adoption. OSM needs to work better for 80% of the use cases, not the other 20.

Working without a network is niche now? Anywhere you go far from a city will lack a network.

It’s really useful when you’re traveling abroad and might not have access to any data right away.

Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?

#114
post #82

> What if Google decide to "hide" or "highlight" certain kind of shops for instance Doesn't google already do this? Shops with paid advertisement come much higher than unpaid shops.

Or for navigation: walking, biking, public transit, driving, uber

Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?

#115
What I miss is actual functionality that makes my life better as a user. I totally agree on all points made, but it is not going get me a better mapping experience in any way. For me to consider OSM, I need most features that are as good and some that are better. I don't like to say it, but OSM does not (yet?) offer this.

Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?

#116
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you call Germany? Germany, or Deutschland? Why is the one you use more correct than the other?

Germany is more correct because they write " made in Germany" on German products.

But that was mandated by the British because the zeitgeist was that German products were shoddy crap.

Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?

#117
post #13

And if you can't use OSM, try Here maps. They are easy to download for offline use. Following the suggestion of friends, I have repurposed an old phone as a "travel phone" with maps of the whole world (or at least the parts I can download!) Not perfect, but when I catch a plane, I don't have to worry about local networks. Fun story: recently in Europe, Google Maps stuttered. Now and then, there was a networking issue…

Google Maps does let you save offline areas. And while search is not as capable when offline, I find if you have an address it works, and often it works if you only have a business name. What doesn't work are the walking or public transit navigation options. However, if you can find free public Wi-Fi (which is easier and easier) you can plot the directions while online, and then it will continue to work when you go offline.

Yes it's a little less convenient than live data, but it works great for me. I have an Android phone with no mobile data plan. So whenever I'm in an area that I'm not familiar with, I just download to offline maps and I'm good to go.

For the first 25 years I drove a car, I had only paper maps and/or written directions whenever I needed to go anywhere. So Google Maps even in offline mode is still like magic to me.

Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?

#118
Back in the days, I rode hundreds of kilometres on my bike to map empty areas of OSM, but I never really used OSM.

Google Maps is not perfect but is there an OSS alternative to :

- a map

- a strong search engine

- POI synced on the cloud

- powerful transport/traffic route calculation

I can't use a map service without these features.

Re: Why Use OpenStreetMap Instead of Google Maps?

#119

I totally support OSM 1000%... But frankly, it seems it's still a lot of work to build OSM into your own website/app, setting up your own tile server. I know there are instructions for this [1] [2] -- but to really get popular, it seems like there really ought to be up-to-date, auto-updating, officially recommended and totally secure server images on Digital Ocean, AWS, Google Cloud and Azure where anyone can spin it…

If what you mentioned existed I would immediately implement it on A number of sites I’ve made for clients. I don’t want to ask for the time to setup and maintain something that will take over an hour of the allotted development time.
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