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Re: Living with a best-selling Indian phone for 10 days

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Post by untog »

bgirard wrote: post #70
untog wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been surprised by how performant you can get with CSS transitions and a will-change property. But good grief is it difficult . On one hand I understand why a transition on `left` isn't hardware accelerated but a `translate3d` is, but on the other it seems crazy that we expect people to think and know this kind of stuff when they just want to do something very simple.

That's was my intention when I proposed will-changed. I was trying to get the Firefox OS home screen slide transitions to be performant without hard coding it in the Gecko layout engine.

Thank you for proposing it! I was astonished by the difference when I used it.

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Post by vanderZwan »

StavrosK wrote: post #99
osrec wrote: post #83

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May I know which browser and OS you're using please?

A bit off-topic, but does the OS matter? Don't all browsers render the same between OSes? Although I can see them being different in things like font rendering...

> Don't all browsers render the same between OSes?

Canvas fingerprinting wouldn't be as effective if it did

Re: Living with a best-selling Indian phone for 10 days

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Post by st26 »

hayksaakian wrote: post #16
vidanay wrote: post #5

I'd be interested to know how these $60 phones perform compared to a 9 year old Motorola Droid. Obviously, the level of content 9 years ago was at least an order of magnitude less than today, but how much of these devices slowness is content vs delivery technology? Is it because web apps are dynamic instead of static? Is it a matter of framework bloat? What is really the root cause of the terrible performance?

Operating system bloat and app bloat. A motorola droid was super fast, I had it for years. If you made a brand new motorola droid today with the same exact hardware and software it would be too. Here's a chart showing apk bloat for popular apps over time: https://sensortower.com/blog/ios-app-size-growth It's for iOS but the same logic follows for android

Is ProGuard or similar widely used these days? Is it good enough?

There was a parallel trend of some really awesome apps clocking less than 4MB, which I attribute to good tooling. I wonder if Gmail, Facebook, et al have stripping & such turned off, or if they just have huge asset stores?

Re: Living with a best-selling Indian phone for 10 days

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Post by vedanthbekal »

This author Pranav Dixit is an idiot.

He is one of those typical Indians who live in India but they think they live Bay Area. And they super proud of owning an iPhone even though have nothing else to speak of. Notice how many times he wants to speak so highly of iPhone.

This article is biased because the phone is not made for outlook app or games or any of that.

The phone is a really really entry phone for calling light browsing and light apps. But this idiot is trying to compare it to his iPhone.

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Post by amalag »

vedanthbekal wrote: post #114

This author Pranav Dixit is an idiot. He is one of those typical Indians who live in India but they think they live Bay Area. And they super proud of owning an iPhone even though have nothing else to speak of. Notice how many times he wants to speak so highly of iPhone. This article is biased because the phone is not made for outlook app or games or any of that. The phone is a really really entry phone for calling li…

Yeah the target audience will ask if it runs WhatsApp and maybe Facebook Messenger and that's about it.

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Post by agumonkey »

ranji2612 wrote: post #18

This is probably an extreme example to use Bharat 2(which most considers a failed project) and using light apps on top of that. Choosing a budget phone does not mean choosing the cheapest one. Honestly i don't know anyone who uses the phone they mentioned, more phones from Honor or Xiaomi or Moto etc are more common. Its hard for me to have exact data on this, so this is just based on my experience.

that's right, you can find great xiaomi phones at around 100$. I'm having no trouble with a moto g3 and these are way better in all specs.

2nd hand they're probably around the 70$ mark in india too.

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Post by hedora »

code_duck wrote: post #6

I did an experiment similar to this a few years back, but I lasted about six months. After touchscreen on my iPhone 6 Plus died prematurely two days after the warranty expired, and neither Apple nor Verizon would help, I decided to simply forgo owning a smartphone for a while. I used one on WiFi only, and went back to an LCD flip phone from 2002. This worked great, except people kept complaining that they couldn’t te…

> Out of the box, though, the system couldn’t keep up with typing.

Until the most recent iOS update, my 6+ couldn’t reliably keep up with typing on iOS 11, fwiw.

Re: Living with a best-selling Indian phone for 10 days

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Post by hedora »

paradite wrote: post #77
bigdaddyrabbit wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a best selling phone in India last year. People are using it, just not people in your social circle.

It's not. The article used inaccurate term in the title. Later in the article they mentioned it's the "best selling phone for sub $75 brands".

Got it. I was wondering how the most popular phone was $75, but the mean selling price was $157, and owning a lowest-end $269 iPhone was unheard of.
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