Feel like this is just gonna cause so many bike shredding arguments internally it's not really worth it.
WeWork Will No Longer Let Employees Expense Any Kind of Meat
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#202> staff will not be able to expense any meals that include poultry, pork or red meat. What about dolphin?
Alligator might be an end around also :)
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#203Re: WeWork Will No Longer Let Employees Expense Any Kind of Meat
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's not be hyperbolic here. Serving food that doesn't happen to contain meat isn't forcing you to be vegetarian any more than serving only soft drinks at an event would be forcing you to be a teetotaler.
Serving food that doesn't happen to contain meat isn't forcing you to be vegetarian Sure it is. There will be situations where employees have no choice but to eat company-sponsored food. Mandatory working lunches, dinner with potential clients (I’d love for them to take me to dinner as a potential client/partner and tell me I can’t order a steak...), etc. In those situations, they are indeed “forcing you to be a vege…
Most of your comments on this thread have been illogical.
Companies are not required to dole out free food. Them changing their policies to only reimburse certain kinds of food can be met with you leaving the company if it matters that much to you.
You can bring your own food or pay for it out of your own pocket if you need to. They have stated people with medical/religious requirements that need meat will have their needs met.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a pretty great analogy. Lots of businesses have a no-alcohol policy. No one even bats an eye when it's mentioned. I hardly see anyone complaining about such companies pushing a lifestyle agenda.
Alcohol is not a good example. Alcohol at work causes so many problems.
Does it really? I can get alcohol at two or three, and sometimes more, work events in any given week. Some teams have beer fridges. The sky doesn't fall.
(to be clear, I fully agree with GP)
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's not be hyperbolic here. Serving food that doesn't happen to contain meat isn't forcing you to be vegetarian any more than serving only soft drinks at an event would be forcing you to be a teetotaler.
On the other hand, a policy of "you can expense vegetarian meals, but only vegetarian meals" is forcing you to be vegetarian at a much higher and more obnoxious level than that.
Pushing. Not forcing.
I mean, I'm pretty sure that most jobs that come with expense accounts also happen to come with a decent amount of, what do you call it, income. I sort of doubt that this sort of policy is headed to the per diem world.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serving food that doesn't happen to contain meat isn't forcing you to be vegetarian Sure it is. There will be situations where employees have no choice but to eat company-sponsored food. Mandatory working lunches, dinner with potential clients (I’d love for them to take me to dinner as a potential client/partner and tell me I can’t order a steak...), etc. In those situations, they are indeed “forcing you to be a vege…
Most of your comments on this thread have been illogical. Companies are not required to dole out free food. Them changing their policies to only reimburse certain kinds of food can be met with you leaving the company if it matters that much to you. You can bring your own food or pay for it out of your own pocket if you need to. They have stated people with medical/religious requirements that need meat will have their…
I think his point was that such a heavy handed policy that runs contrary to the views of most of the world's population is problematic. Since there will be situations where employees have little or no choice but to eat company sponsored meals, I for one don't see that to be "illogical".
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apparently lions, tigers and bears aren't aware of the Kantian perfect/imperfect duty divide.
I don't know that I fully agree with the parent's logic (despite the fact that I actually am a vegetarian), but I think the rationale to his argument is that humans are able to survive without meat (unlike cats, lions, or tigers), and we also have the ability to realize that we are able to avoid meat. Cats, bears, and tigers really don't have the mental faculties to know good or bad, or right and wrong, but we do (at…
Non vegetarians everywhere demonstrably don't have the ability or "mental faculties" to see that eating meat is wrong, any more than lions and tigers and bears do.
It's like someone saying everyone has the ability to accept God or Jesus. No, we don't. And it's a touchy subject, because zealots tend to next infer that someone isn't fully human if they don't share fundamental beliefs or axioms.
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#209Being a vegetarian is exactly as equal a choice of freedom as being an omnivore or carnivore. This feels wrong to push this lifestyle on people. Of course one can always just not do business with We Work.
Let's not be hyperbolic here. Serving food that doesn't happen to contain meat isn't forcing you to be vegetarian any more than serving only soft drinks at an event would be forcing you to be a teetotaler.
I don't know. If they're not going to expense your meals because you're away on official business and chose wrong then I'm not sure I'd be down with that. As for on premise and coordinated business events, sure, I'm down with that. Business trips where you're someplace new well away from home "if you want us to pay for a meal while we send you to this place then no meat" is.. a little too close to too personal. That seems mean and self-righteous. I don't think I wouldn't be interested in weWork even were I a vegetarian.
We can all try or not. Screw coercion, especially in excess.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eating vegetarian is more expensive if you want to feel full and satiated in the end.
I spent all my life an omnivore, until the last two years I became vegetarian; 6 of those months vegan. I’m inclined to agree with you if you meant that a ‘satiated’ vegan diet is more expensive, because often the (lower demand / higher price) raw ingredients to make meals from scratch are more niche and varied. However, once you throw (principally) dairy into the mix, including mass-market meat substitutes (such as…
I believe WeWork opened a great discussion and I personally applaud them for taking a stand. I also applauded Starbucks with straws like most others here.
Also, I find that it's pretty easy to actually save money on vegan food. Maybe it takes a little planning, but it's not that difficult to walk away with more money eating vegan while feeling better.