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Sigh... please explain why it’s immoral to consume other organisms?
The eating itself is neutral. It is immoral to pay people to raise other organisms in confinement and later slaughter them.
Crap my garden!
WeWork Will No Longer Let Employees Expense Any Kind of Meat
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#62Hmmm in Sydney wework charges 850 per desk per month.
After paying rent, rice is the only option.
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#63I can't eat a lot of types of food due to allergies. Meat is one of the few things I still can eat without issue. Yes, there are actually people out there (hi, me!) that actually cannot eliminate certain foods from our diets without getting sick. This policy would prevent me from being able to work at that company, for recognized medical health reasons, because I would not be able to do legitimate expenses of food re…
I guess I missed how anybody being "forced" to do anything.
Their employees are still free to buy all the meat they want.
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#64It's funny to observe the criticism on a technical forum that should be in tune with the data. WeWork is setting a policy that is on the right side of history—for animals and the environment. I didn't see a lot of criticism on Starbucks straw decision. However, when the cost is a sacrifice closer to home, even when logic doesn't support the whining, so many try to find fault with a company decision that is net positive.
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#65"New research indicates that avoiding meat is one of the biggest things an individual can do to reduce their personal environmental impact," said McKelvey in the memo, "even more than switching to a hybrid car."
What research?
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#66It's obvious they are trying to save money, with the weirdest excuse they could find. Meat is the most expensive part of any meal.
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#67> staff will not be able to expense any meals that include poultry, pork or red meat.
What about dolphin?
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#68Nice. If you care at all about moral justifications for your own actions, eating meat is an extremely difficult position to defend. It even falls on the wrong side of the Kantian perfect/imperfect duty divide, since the default really is not eating meat, so eating meat is a positive action which must be justified. I think it's a great example of philosophy pointing out the absurdity of a (very) widely-practiced pheno…
Okay, I'll make a go of it: Which insect-eating-insect relationships are morally justified in the context of farming, and why? Are ladybugs morally superior for their crop-protecting abilities or morally inferior for their consumption of peaceful herbivores?
This is along the same lines as asking a vegan cat-owner what they feed their cat. I know that it's trite, but it's worth pondering.
Edit: 1hr without a reply. Wasn't that difficult.
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#69"The company estimates that the policy will save 445.1m pounds of CO2 emissions ... by 2023." That's 202,000 kt over a 5-year plan. Global fuel-based emissions in 2015: 36,061,710 kt CO2. In other words, they think they are so important as to "save" about 0.1% of global CO2 annually just by refusing to include meat in the menu of their own events and employee-expensed meals. I doubt the magnitude of their estimates.…
Let alone that lower demand might lower price and increase consumption from others, keeping net meat production the same.
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And this ladies and gentlemen is why vegans have a reputation for being annoying.
Haha, even as an occasional meat eater I liked this comment. If this sort of comment is annoying, maybe time to inquire into the defensiveness. Maybe you have too much "skin" in the game?
It's not defensive to be annoyed by people claiming moral superiority.