George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
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Re: George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
#2Sour grapes? I recall when push button elevators were installed. The union insisted an operator was still needed - who asked you 'what floor?' and then pushed that button.
Without operators, western, and indeed all global civilization would come to an end...
Re: George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
#3Sour grapes? I recall when push button elevators were installed. The union insisted an operator was still needed - who asked you 'what floor?' and then pushed that button. Without operators, western, and indeed all global civilization would come to an end...
When push-button elevators were installed, they worked. Can you imagine if the pitch had been, “sometimes this elevator will kill the odd person, thanks for helping us work out the bugs.” As a bonus, the actual working elevator might not emerge until decades after installation began, and the early models only worked on alternate Wednesday’s.
Re: George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
#4geohot has always been equal parts brains and bombast.
Re: George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
#5> California’s DMV requires all companies testing self-driving cars to report how many times safety operators were forced to take control of its vehicles.
You make what you measure. This encourages companies to have their safety operators take over less often: if you tell the operators to err on the side of safety and take over more often, your car will look less safe.
I don't have a solution here, just pointing out how this actually can benefit companies that care less about safety.
Re: George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
#6Sour grapes? I recall when push button elevators were installed. The union insisted an operator was still needed - who asked you 'what floor?' and then pushed that button. Without operators, western, and indeed all global civilization would come to an end...
"Thank you for choosing Liftatron 4000. These multi-occupant vertical travel devices are almost fully autonomous, and typically require no manual control. Simply state your floor, and enjoy your journey.
Trips passing floors 3, 7, or any floor in which any resident has recently taken a shower, may revert this Fully Autonomous Lifting Device to human operated mode immediately following a n assertive audio tone. Failure to correctly operate the pop-up controls during this unlikely occurrence may result in death or serious injury to you and any other passengers. Please take the time to familiarise yourself with all operating controls that will rarely if ever be required."
Re: George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
#7Sour grapes? I recall when push button elevators were installed. The union insisted an operator was still needed - who asked you 'what floor?' and then pushed that button. Without operators, western, and indeed all global civilization would come to an end...
What would the elevator operator do if the elevator got stuck between floors, or kept going past the selected floor? Was there a hand brake for the elevator that only they could use?
Re: George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
#8What would the point of current self-driving car systems be? If you can't take your attention off the road anyway, it's basically a glorified, expensive cruise control.
Re: George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
#9Sour grapes? I recall when push button elevators were installed. The union insisted an operator was still needed - who asked you 'what floor?' and then pushed that button. Without operators, western, and indeed all global civilization would come to an end...
"Thank you for choosing Liftatron 4000. These multi-occupant vertical travel devices are almost fully autonomous, and typically require no manual control. Simply state your floor, and enjoy your journey. Trips passing floors 3, 7, or any floor in which any resident has recently taken a shower, may revert this Fully Autonomous Lifting Device to human operated mode immediately following a n assertive audio tone. Failur…
...and then we have the issues of “non-standard” accents. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAz_UvnUeuU
Re: George Hotz is on a hacker crusade against the ‘scam’ of self-driving cars
#10Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17522766