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Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by talltimtom »

hug wrote: post #60
emsy wrote: post #27

I'm an iOS user. But frankly, iOS sucks for this kind of work. I tried. Copy pasting is slow, file handling is unnecesserily clunky (just give me a file browser Apple). And exporting always needs some kind of workaround because I can't just pop in USB drives (which my wife's Surface Pro gladly accepts).

You say you tried, but it sounds to me like you didn't try hard enough. I'm a hobbyist photographer, and I do the vast majority of my photography work on a 9.7" iPad pro, with a Pencil. I'm constantly editing 24mp RAW files in Affinity Photo, which is about as close to full-fat Photoshop running on the iPad as you can possibly get, and let me tell you: It's fantastic. I turn on my camera, I shoot some images. I open…

Complete side note to the actual discussion, but I really like your description workflow, it sounds like you got yourself set up very nicely. What camera are you shooting with?

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by rimliu »

megaman22 wrote: post #21
esturk wrote: post #9

I wonder if people will drop Photoshop from their list of deficiencies when the topic Tablet vs. PC comes up. Often, some people bring up the lack of productivity tools like PS, X_Cad, writing and building code etc.

I don't think I understand how one could possibly use Photoshop effectively with such imprecise and limited input options as touch. I don't think I'd be able to do it on a surface the size of an IPad with a good stylus, let alone my grubby sausage fingers. Especially without keyboard shortcuts to reduce the amount of clicking around to select different tools and navigate.

iPad has a better resolution and color reproduction than many displays.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by chapium »

melling wrote: post #46
emsy wrote: post #27

I'm an iOS user. But frankly, iOS sucks for this kind of work. I tried. Copy pasting is slow, file handling is unnecesserily clunky (just give me a file browser Apple). And exporting always needs some kind of workaround because I can't just pop in USB drives (which my wife's Surface Pro gladly accepts).

Personally, I’m imagining a future where you don’t need a USB drive to move files between devices. Dropbox, Creative Cloud, Universal AirDrop. I would like the touchscreen paradigm to be expanded. Pencil, force touch, and perhaps something like Kinect/Soli: https://atap.google.com/soli/

I’d love it if airdrop worked. I have had some success iphone to iphone (iphone6). However iphone6 to mid 2014 mbp on the latest stable osx and 9 times out of 10 it fails. I thought staying in the Apple ecosystem would prevent stress from integation issues, but the reality is unless you subscribe to icloud you are in for a rough ride.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by nostalgeek »

ktpsns wrote: post #63
raverbashing wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Browsers don't have the power or the speed to run the most demanding loads that Photoshop require (especially without using more memory than needed) At some point you really need to manipulate image data (from/to disk) in weird ways that's just not possible in a browser Try opening a .jpg file that's bigger than available memory in PS and see how that goes (harder now as memory is not so constrained) as opposed to ot…

This is not even true in the classical JavaScript world. A 10 year old tiling image viewer (think of any map viewer) proves the opposite. Given we have WebAssembly and friends nowadays, you can think of the browser as a X86 VM host if you whish, with similar limitations (= no relevant limitations for running PS).

You can't really load giga bytes of data in a web page without that page dying. The issue isn't really what Javascript can or cannot do (though speed is obviously a concern). Even if you manage to stream the data somehow you still need to persist it locally, and I'm pretty sure no browser allows that kind of quota. Photoshop feature complete is not going to run in the browser soon.

If what you said was true we would already have late Xbox 360 and PS3 like games running in the browser...with acceptable performances on high end hardware, which is clearly not the case.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by coderkd10 »

heavymark wrote: post #49
coderkd10 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ex-Adobe engineer here - don't be disappointed, I think they'll do it soon. I was working in the acrobat team till last month, and we were working on porting the Acrobat Reader to the web. When I left it was in the internal beta stage with minor UX tweaking work left. It is expected to be release very soon. I think similar efforts may be (or will soon be) ongoing in other teams as well.

Interesting. Pretty great that Adobe didn't require a non disclosure of that type of information for a set time after leaving the company like most. Bravo for Adobe for allowing their ex employees freedom to talk about what they are working on.

Yes adobe is pretty open in that respect. Our team was also planning to present this in google io, but somehow that did not materalize and autodesk beat us to the punch by demoing something very similar!

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by 1over137 »

gallerdude wrote: post #11

Hopefully, this means we’ve reached some critical mass of Mac apps moving over. Because the iPad is the future of computing, much the same way the GUI superseded text interfaces.

The "future of computing" is a device where you can't install your own software without the permission of a large undemocratic foreign company? Sounds horrible.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by js2 »

chapium wrote: post #73
melling wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I’m imagining a future where you don’t need a USB drive to move files between devices. Dropbox, Creative Cloud, Universal AirDrop. I would like the touchscreen paradigm to be expanded. Pencil, force touch, and perhaps something like Kinect/Soli: https://atap.google.com/soli/

I’d love it if airdrop worked. I have had some success iphone to iphone (iphone6). However iphone6 to mid 2014 mbp on the latest stable osx and 9 times out of 10 it fails. I thought staying in the Apple ecosystem would prevent stress from integation issues, but the reality is unless you subscribe to icloud you are in for a rough ride.

I wonder why it’s failing for you. I can’t recall a single time Airdrop hasn’t worked for me since it was first introduced. Over the years I’ve used it between different kinds of both iOS devices and Macs.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by flanban »

I think this feels like a step forward, but I bet it's going to be a while before this is usable for heavy PS work. The main issues for me are that I use photoshop with as many keyboard shortcuts as possible and if I need a bt keyboard then to me it's already more cumbersome than a small laptop. Plus, photoshop clobbers RAM. There's no way you could use it at speed on a wee tablet.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by drukenemo »

hug wrote: post #60
emsy wrote: post #27

I'm an iOS user. But frankly, iOS sucks for this kind of work. I tried. Copy pasting is slow, file handling is unnecesserily clunky (just give me a file browser Apple). And exporting always needs some kind of workaround because I can't just pop in USB drives (which my wife's Surface Pro gladly accepts).

You say you tried, but it sounds to me like you didn't try hard enough. I'm a hobbyist photographer, and I do the vast majority of my photography work on a 9.7" iPad pro, with a Pencil. I'm constantly editing 24mp RAW files in Affinity Photo, which is about as close to full-fat Photoshop running on the iPad as you can possibly get, and let me tell you: It's fantastic. I turn on my camera, I shoot some images. I open…

Also hobbyist photographer. Will definitely try this out. It's still hard to beat in my opinion as desktop workflow with the nice help of plugins etc.

Re: Adobe will bring the full Photoshop to the iPad

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Post by barrkel »

nostalgeek wrote: post #74
ktpsns wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not even true in the classical JavaScript world. A 10 year old tiling image viewer (think of any map viewer) proves the opposite. Given we have WebAssembly and friends nowadays, you can think of the browser as a X86 VM host if you whish, with similar limitations (= no relevant limitations for running PS).

You can't really load giga bytes of data in a web page without that page dying. The issue isn't really what Javascript can or cannot do (though speed is obviously a concern). Even if you manage to stream the data somehow you still need to persist it locally, and I'm pretty sure no browser allows that kind of quota. Photoshop feature complete is not going to run in the browser soon. If what you said was true we would…

Why do you need to persist it locally?
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