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Post by fcbrooklyn »

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I had to replace my 2015 MBP last week, because the kb started failing (it wasn't one of the ones eligible for a free repair, sadly, and I can't live without a machine for however long it takes them to fix it anyway). I was really torn, because although I could reluctantly live without the function keys, the escape key is a complete dealbreaker. After much debate I decided to take a chance on a surface book. I figure…

Hey, what was wrong with your keyboard? Was the trackpad also not working when you had keyboard problems? You may have had a common issue with the 2015 Macbook Pros, literally tens of thousands of people have Googled that problem on Youtube. Apple won’t admit that it’s a problem with hose models but if you take it to an Apple Store they’ll conveniently take $500 to replace the keyboard. Anyways it’s an introduced bug…

For awhile the 'e' key was only working about 90% of the time. Then it began working about 120% of the time, so I had to remap it to nothing, move the 'e' to the backslash, and plug in an external keyboard. The trackpad and all the rest of the keys were working just fine. I usually replace machines every three years or so anyway, so the key issue was just the trigger. Thank you for your advice. Do you think that might be the issue, given that the trackpad worked fine?

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Post by briandear »

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I think so too, especially with further improvements to the Taptic Engine. This might also lead to a more “solid state” device with less mechanical parts to worry about. I wonder if there will be a backlash or if we will all get used to it.

I think that would be horrible. Yoga book has already brought this idea to market, and typing on it is a nightmare.

Yoga book isn’t Apple. People were saying the exact same thing about iPhone vs Blackberry.

If done right, it is completely possible. But the old neck beards will certainly have a conniption fit.

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

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Really? Window sucks for me even before I log in first time, with stuff like "wait while we are setting you up, just relax...". I switched to Linux and felt the same feeling you did though. Happiness to be back in a nice new system where I feel at home!

Not my experience. I have to use windows at work. Got ubuntu running in a vm. Buggy as shit. - sharing screen in hangouts puts chrome on every virtual desktop so now you can't click on chrome to navigate to that desktop - slack crashes silently every 24 hours - virtual desktops is a mess, if one window overflows into another desktop, then when you click on that app ubuntu will take you to the desktop where you see th…

the only viable linux platform remaining is the one loosely organised and licensed around the world called "Android". with recent advances in ARM64 chips and extremely fast processors some OEM's are releasing desktop modes for android. Its truly the final frontier of linux, hopefully this idea can aleviate those issues you've had with linux. Applications work consistently on Android although there is still the app gap of stuff not yet ported onto google play store.

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Post by ybrah »

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Anyone who uses a keyboard to navigate their computer (most software professionals worth their salt) hit the escape key often enough to warrant it as a complaint. Try not using your mouse for your computer

Anyone who uses a keyboard to navigate their computer and has not already re-mapped their keyboard to put esc into a more RSI-friendly location is going to be paying for this choice in a decade or so...

I use an ergodox with escape mapped to a very easily accessible location. On my laptop keyboard, I have caps lock mapped to escape.

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Post by eridius »

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In my experience, most of the people (not all, but most) who complain about the TouchBar haven't actually even used one for any significant period of time. It's definitely trendy.

I don't need to use one to know that I already resent the one backlit screen. I don't need or want another . More flexible is great, sliding for volume is great, I have no conceptual problems with the touchbar except that I don't want another screen.

It's a mostly-black screen with fairly low brightness. I'm not in the habit of sitting in a pitch-black room on my laptop, so I can't tell you how it looks there, but in my everyday use it hasn't been even the remotest problem.

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

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In my experience, most of the people (not all, but most) who complain about the TouchBar haven't actually even used one for any significant period of time. It's definitely trendy.

I'm at the 6 month mark on a 2017 15in and I still dislike it. It's not that its terrible...it's just worse than the function / media keys. Its a step backwards. Perhaps if the touchbar was in addition to the old function row I wouldnt mind it as much.

in system settings under keyboard you can set it to only show the function keys and act only as a row of keys (similar to how it runs while bootcamped into windows)

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Post by cityhall »

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Biggest new feature they could add would be to not have an additional screen taking up battery life and shining in my face, unable to be dimmed with f.lux. Maybe instead we could have a row of keys that provide some sort of function, and maybe a key that allows the user to escape. That would be a pretty useful feature that I can guarantee I would use dozens or hundreds of times a day. I'm considering replacing my Mac…

When I'm wearing my cynic hat, the touch bar is the beginning of a plot to replace our physical keys with another screen with an image of keys. The 2030 MacBook will basically be two iPads taped together

The new Macbook keyboards have such low travel that they feel like a step in that direction. I like the laptop overall but I make a lot more typos than I did on my old one.

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Post by mrkstu »

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I didn't mean to imply that the concerns were unfounded. I know there are real, legitimate complaints with the touchbar. At the same time, I just wanted to point out that there are at least some developers who do prefer it, and that the dislike isn't universal.

So maybe a nice compromise would be having both... having a touchbar that can be customized in addition to a standard set of function keys.

That's what I don't understand- there is plenty of room for both, especially on the 15". Just add the Touch Bar strip above the function keys and call it a day...

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Post by TimTheTinker »

briandear wrote: post #764
reificator wrote: post #644

Biggest new feature they could add would be to not have an additional screen taking up battery life and shining in my face, unable to be dimmed with f.lux. Maybe instead we could have a row of keys that provide some sort of function, and maybe a key that allows the user to escape. That would be a pretty useful feature that I can guarantee I would use dozens or hundreds of times a day. I'm considering replacing my Mac…

Can’t you use Night Shift or the built in dimming? Not sure I understand what you are saying. (Not arguing, just genuinely interested in the complaint.)

The Touch Bar can't be dimmed below a certain threshold (either manually or programmatically). Normally we use f.lux or Brightness Slider to dim the main display, but touch bar brightness can't be controlled. Makes it hard to work late at night without putting electrical tape over it.

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Post by stanislavb »

reificator wrote: post #644

Biggest new feature they could add would be to not have an additional screen taking up battery life and shining in my face, unable to be dimmed with f.lux. Maybe instead we could have a row of keys that provide some sort of function, and maybe a key that allows the user to escape. That would be a pretty useful feature that I can guarantee I would use dozens or hundreds of times a day. I'm considering replacing my Mac…

Yeah, it's sad. I was hoping for a version without a touch bar too :(.

I'd also say that these new Macs are the most unpopular ones among devs. It's just that we are so used to MacOS :|

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