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Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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So much for holding out for a CUDA compatible GPU to do machine learning on...

Isn't CUDA Nvidia only? Apple and Nvidia are not in good terms, I believe.

Ya I was hoping they would come to an agreement ;(

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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This seems like a pretty unusual/rare step of releasing an upgrade with just a press release; they clearly wanted to get this machine out before some part of the buying cycle rather than waiting for a press event. I know it's still just a spec bump, but it's different enough that it would normally appear at an event. I don't need to rehash all of the 2015 vs touchbar arguments, the touchbar machine is "good enough" t…

It is not unusual or rare for Apple to announce (what they consider) mere spec bump releases via press release. Apple has a long history of doing this.

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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It seems to me the touchbar was just a clever way to get their own processor into their laptops for some large scale real-world testing before they ditch intel and build the entire thing themselves. 2020 is a good guess I'd say.

Maybe the Touchbar was just a "clever" way to prepare all of us for sole touch-based input, which is going to be included in the MBP in 2020. ;-) P.S.: I don't even think touch-only input is neccessarily a bad idea. All Apple has to do to make it work is to implement some kind of really good haptic feedback which also allows to feel individual keys. I even expected that for this iteration of the MBP for the Touchbar.

Re: your P.S.: If a touch keyboard could give haptic feedback that let us distinguish between a "correct" keypress and a missed one, it might work. Perhaps a pleasant haptic vibration in proportion to how close to center your finger strikes would work.

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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I'm looking forward to the very first "real development takes 64GB RAM, 32 just isn't enough" complaints. Honestly, this looks like a good revision. I've been wanting a quad core 13 inch for a while. Hopefully the keyboard revision helps with all of the issues people have had.

13" is still capped at 16gb.

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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> The new keyboard has the same dimensions and look as its two predecessors, but the keys feel just a little bit different. They're quieter, for one thing. They have a softer, less click-y feel that is a little closer to the pre-2016 models' chiclet keys. We found the new keyboard to be a little nicer to type on, but it's not a radical difference. It's unlikely to convert the detractors, but it's a welcome iteration…

Sorry I am missing something here.

I just looked up my laptop's info: 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7 from 2012. So you are telling me 6 years later, I can get a 2.9GHz 6‑core 8th‑generation Intel Core i7 processor for ~$2800. So Moore's law was incorrect?

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I'm disappointed: no USB ports that I can use (I don't have a single peripheral that plugs into USB-C and it's unlikely that any of my peripherals will be "updated"), useless touchbar instead of the function key row, the same "ultra-thin" form factor sacrificing battery life and keyboard for "thinness" (which I don't need), and keyboard which is still an unknown.

I wish Apple had serious competition. As in: competition that makes an integrated hardware/OS combination that is comparable to what Apple makes.

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, have you had a chance to explore the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)? WSL allows you to run your favorite linux distro with access to most command-line tools, utilities, and so on[0]. I have been a .NET developer for about 5 years now and recently began working in Ruby. The WSL had allowed me to effortlessly set up my Ruby dev environment, while still maintaining Windows 10 as my main OS of choice…

It's not so much about development. Even if I did move over to Mac OS, I would still probably use the same or similar tool set - Visual Studio Code for everything except .Net Core. For .Net Core I would probably use JetBrain's Rider. It's about deployment. Anytime you use Windows in a cloud hosted environment, you end up spending more on licensing and needing larger instances -- increasing the costs and startup time.…

That polish has slipped of late, at least with MacOS itself. I used Macs professionally for 14 years but switched to a Thinkpad+Ubuntu 4 months ago and haven't missed much. If you're going to invest time in the switch, I'd recommend giving Linux on desktop a try, as MacOS has been trending the wrong direction for years.

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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3600 with 32GB ram and 1TB ssd.

I'd probably get one, but I don't use it for work and my 2013 is still trucking along just fine.

Actually I could probably get a decent chunk of money for it and then use that to help finance a new one. hmmm

I'll wait and see if the keyboards are still crap.

Re: MacBook Pro with faster performance and new features for pros

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I have limited eyesight - good enough to work on a bright magnified computer screen. When I bought a new Macbook Pro I couldn't read the Touchbar and of course there's no tactile feedback. It's even worse that the keys can change with context. Due to my eyesight I also often tweak the screen brightness for best readability with the up/down function keys. The slider doesn't work well for incremental adjustments especially when you can't see it clearly.

I returned the Macbook within a week and had to buy a lower model with real function keys.

I tried configuring fixed locations for the most important keys but could not work without the tactile feedback of being centered on a given key. I guess there's some sort of voiceover but it would be annoying and slow. I didn't need voiceover before so why would I want to use it now to accommodate Apples latest gimmick?

Actually I wonder if it would work to add tactile feedback by 3D printing a thin overlay that adds frames around keys configured for fixed location. Or maybe someone could offer a product that is a Touchbar overlay made of clingy silicone?

Edit: Something else I wanted to add: I've tried switching to Windows (several times) but I can't work without Apple's Ctrl + two-finger up/down full screen magnification. Window's magnifier is a poor substitute because it's not full screen. The magnifier can be made the size of the screen but then it's clunky to move the focus of magnifier, and update is jittery. If anyone from Microsoft is reading this, please look at Apple's screen zoom and give your magnifier a mode like that - a full screen infinitely variable zoom that continually centers the focus on the mouse pointer.

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