They will form a Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune.
BDFL power can not be derived from some aquatic farce.
“I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
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Re: “I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you see them, let the mods know via the Contact link in the footer. They don't see everything and update the ones they know about.
It's very often the mods who editorialize (often you can see some reasoning in the comments), so it is definitely not an issue of them not knowing, rather a change of policy.
Editing is not the same as editorializing.
Re: “I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
But the B is for Benevolent. When a huge part of the community is against, does that B still stands?
If both kids want to eat candy as dinner, is the father blocking that not benevolent because he's outnumbered?
There is a reason kids aren't allowed to legally decide for themselves until 18.
In Python land, there is this saying "we are all adults here".
Being an adult also means avoiding creating needless drama.
Re: “I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
#114I've begged GitHub to institute forms of government for repos. For X action to happen, Y percent of the pool of people in the Z list need to approve it. Membership of the Z list is granted when W percent of the T pool approve it. Modifying the rules of government of this repo can only happen when L percent of the R pool approve it. And on and on... I could imagine a city or state government actually having its laws e…
Why is representative democracy the best system for managing a repo? Will there also be an option for pure democracy?
Can I fork your socialist utopia and form an authoritarian dictatorship?
I don’t see why this system would ever be beneficial to a real world government. We already have checks and balances, if GitHub did it all who decides how GitHub works? What’s the benefit?
Re: “I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
#115Python is certainly one of the more opinionated languages in the OSS world, so there was always going to be contention on syntax and what it means to be Pythonic etc. Kinda amazing Guido put up with it for this long.
Thank you, Guido, for putting the B in BDFL when you could.
Re: “I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
#116What does BDFL stand for?
Re: “I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
But the B is for Benevolent. When a huge part of the community is against, does that B still stands?
This is what happens when the B and the D collide: you renounce to the FL.
If you are a good person.
I agree with the idea you should give power only to people that don't want it.
I think guido was the right person in power.
Re: “I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you tried reaching software engineers on vacation? “Sorry I’ll be camping on some rock on Mars where I’ll have spotty internet access so....”
Whenever they say that they either mean they only have 2G connection or they somehow managed to get a Gbit satellite phone so they could be online several hours a day from the woods
Not me. When I say that, I really mean it! I don't even have cellular service at home and internet is coming from a 2-man WISP capped at 5mbps. Makes for a fun conversation when a user says the app is "slow" to load...it loads faster than HN at my house ;).
Re: “I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
In 2018, we can finally use our advances in data science and social network design to precisely target outrage and make it maximally engaging.
Not to dismiss your point, but outrage on the internet is like a car wreck, its terrible that it happened but everyone on the road still wants to check it out and put their 2 cents in.
Seems like this thread is a few steps away from outrage about outrage :)
Re: “I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”
#120What does BDFL stand for?
Benevolent Dictator For Life.