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Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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From the perspective of a technologist it's clumsy and imprecise language, but it's not wrong. He wrote code that was explicitly designed to bypass the company's security and treacherously act in a way that caused damage to the company's interests, then he inserted it using other people's security credentials. The only elements missing between what he did and what a "real" hacker might have done is breach a technical…

I don't begrudge Tesla for portraying facts as damning as possible to the opposing party -- that's what any litigant would do (and should do, I would think, although IANAL), as long as no deliberately false statements are made. So "technically true" is fine by me. But since their investigation is still ongoing, and they haven't felt the need to divulge more specific and damning assertions, then it's fair to consider…

No disagreement here.

As to your last sentence, I think it would be difficult to argue that automated and ongoing bulk data exports could ever fit with any definition of whistle-blowing. If he had legitimate concerns, and evidence of those concerns existed in electronic form, he could have simply walked the specific evidence out of the building on a thumb drive.

That being said, we don't know exactly what data was exported, so any speculation (including my own) is rather pointless...

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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post #34

should i withdraw whatever money I have left in my stock brokerage or go all in on nearly expiry puts

Please have a discussion with a financial adviser or other qualified fiduciary.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fiduciary.asp

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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"a cult of Tesla" Nope, not possible. I mean it would be ridiculous if a large number of people displayed unthinking loyalty to a money-making venture just because it projected an image that catered to their prejudices, wouldn't it?

> Nope, not possible. I mean it would be ridiculous if a large number of people displayed unthinking loyalty to a money-making venture just because it projected an image that catered to their prejudices, wouldn't it? basically ICOs

I'm pretty sure some of the people involved in IOTA are going to wind up living in a commune and wearing identical tracksuits.

I do find it interesting how personally invested many people on this site are in the success of Elon Musks ventures.

I mean it's OK to be a fan; but when you start rejecting evidence of mistakes or even malfeasance and attack other people for showing signs of critical thinking on the topic. That gets to be a problem.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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Tesla should have an internal whistleblower program. Elon Musk should run it himself with a dedicated email address that strips "From" information to anonymize the sender.

Really, any CEO of a large company should do this but he's the kind of person that would actually care to hear about problems rather than ignore them.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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The media reports on this story are quite conflicting... Not sure who to believe. Is this guy an innocent whistleblower who's being targeted by Tesla or someone with an agenda against Tesla trying to sabotage the company?

What is he blowing the whistle on? Who did he try to notify?

The article covers your first question. He blew the whistle on misleading investors by overinflating production numbers by as much as 44% and that Tesla is knowingly installing damaged or unfit batteries into cars, increasing their chance of catching fire.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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Immature overreaction? He alledgedly stole company secrets and gave them to others in a way that framed other employees at the company, and would continue to run after he left. Assuming those charges are true, why would it be an overreaction to sue the person who did it!? That to me is the only valid reaction. This person is accused of knowingly purposefully trying to harm Tesla and help competition. The only way thi…

> why would it be an overreaction to sue the person who did it!? That to me is the only valid reaction There are three reasons to sue: (1) as a deterrent, (2) to get an injunction and/or (3) to recover financial damages. The former employee appears broke, so (3) goes out of the window. (2) is a possibility, but mitigated given he already shared the data. As for (1), unemployment + threatened criminal charges would do…

You are forgetting the upside that the next guy who will try to pull this stunt, will know that Tesla will not just let it slip away.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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post #43
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nope, not possible. I mean it would be ridiculous if a large number of people displayed unthinking loyalty to a money-making venture just because it projected an image that catered to their prejudices, wouldn't it? basically ICOs

I'm pretty sure some of the people involved in IOTA are going to wind up living in a commune and wearing identical tracksuits. I do find it interesting how personally invested many people on this site are in the success of Elon Musks ventures. I mean it's OK to be a fan; but when you start rejecting evidence of mistakes or even malfeasance and attack other people for showing signs of critical thinking on the topic. T…

so 99% of ICO isn't a scam or never deliver? are you involved or invested in crypto or ico?

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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post #34

should i withdraw whatever money I have left in my stock brokerage or go all in on nearly expiry puts

Please have a discussion with a financial adviser or other qualified fiduciary. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fiduciary.asp

how will that help me?

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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post #47
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure some of the people involved in IOTA are going to wind up living in a commune and wearing identical tracksuits. I do find it interesting how personally invested many people on this site are in the success of Elon Musks ventures. I mean it's OK to be a fan; but when you start rejecting evidence of mistakes or even malfeasance and attack other people for showing signs of critical thinking on the topic. T…

so 99% of ICO isn't a scam or never deliver? are you involved or invested in crypto or ico?

Your reading comprehension is as evolved as your attitude.
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