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Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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The media reports on this story are quite conflicting... Not sure who to believe. Is this guy an innocent whistleblower who's being targeted by Tesla or someone with an agenda against Tesla trying to sabotage the company?

That's the thing: what's the agenda? Where's the win?

No whistleblower will be completely innocent. Most likely, they will be disgruntled in some way.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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As a Monday morning quarterback of Tesla, I'm really curious to see how this turns out. On the one hand, I see whistle blowers as heroes and if they have information about dangerously using unsafe batteries, then that's great. On the other hand, if the early allegations are true that the employee was altering code and logging in under usernames other than their own to do so, that sure doesn't feel like whistleblowing…

The civil complaint doesn't say anything about logging under other usernames, just that his data-scraper-exporter was running on other people's machines:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/tesla-sues-emplo...

> His hacking software was operating on three separate computer systems of other individuals at Tesla so that the data would be exported even after he left the company and so that those individuals would be falsely implicated as guilty parties.

I guess it's possible that Tripp did indeed add some code that explicitly tried to frame actual employees. But the fact that his code ran on other people's computers, without any other specific evidence (which may be forthcoming, of course) does not necessarily entail that he intended to frame people.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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The media reports on this story are quite conflicting... Not sure who to believe. Is this guy an innocent whistleblower who's being targeted by Tesla or someone with an agenda against Tesla trying to sabotage the company?

Of course there's a conflict. Someone is claiming to be a whistleblower, and Tesla is alleging that he is a liar. I doubt we'll have resolution until there are legal proceedings.

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post #5

The media reports on this story are quite conflicting... Not sure who to believe. Is this guy an innocent whistleblower who's being targeted by Tesla or someone with an agenda against Tesla trying to sabotage the company?

> Not sure who to believe.

Don't. Not until _all_ the facts are laid out.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More importantly it should mention that he was caught red handed stealing company secrets and sending them to others. This one is a bit better coverage of it: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/07/tesla-whistleblo...

> More importantly it should mention that he was caught red handed stealing company secrets and sending them to others That is a roundabout way of describing a whistleblower. He didn't give information to competitors, he gave it to journalists and the SEC.

Which journalists? If he did, they don’t seem to be in a hurry to print what he gave them.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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post #12

As a Monday morning quarterback of Tesla, I'm really curious to see how this turns out. On the one hand, I see whistle blowers as heroes and if they have information about dangerously using unsafe batteries, then that's great. On the other hand, if the early allegations are true that the employee was altering code and logging in under usernames other than their own to do so, that sure doesn't feel like whistleblowing…

The civil complaint doesn't say anything about logging under other usernames, just that his data-scraper-exporter was running on other people's machines: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/tesla-sues-emplo... > His hacking software was operating on three separate computer systems of other individuals at Tesla so that the data would be exported even after he left the company and so that those individuals woul…

How did he have permissions to run unauthorized software on other computers - let alone his coworkers' workstations? Where is the OpSec?

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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As a Monday morning quarterback of Tesla, I'm really curious to see how this turns out. On the one hand, I see whistle blowers as heroes and if they have information about dangerously using unsafe batteries, then that's great. On the other hand, if the early allegations are true that the employee was altering code and logging in under usernames other than their own to do so, that sure doesn't feel like whistleblowing…

On the other hand, a fair trial currently hinges on a crowd-funding campaign.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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A better title would mention this is an Ex-Tesla worker currently being sued by Tesla... I'm not saying there is no story to be read, in fact I plan to look in depth a bit later, but the current title is somewhat misleading

> currently being sued by Tesla

Suing him after firing him was probably an immature overreaction on Tesla's part. It forced the former employee into a more-aggressive posture. Better strategy would have been (a) suing competitors he gave information to (if any) and (b) nudging a local DA to press criminal charges.

Re: Ex-Tesla worker escalates battle by blowing whistle to SEC

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The media reports on this story are quite conflicting... Not sure who to believe. Is this guy an innocent whistleblower who's being targeted by Tesla or someone with an agenda against Tesla trying to sabotage the company?

That’s why we have courts. It’s not our job to decide he said she said cases like this in the public square where we simply cannot have access to the necessary data. Not saying courts are perfect, but at least they have the ability to get the necessary data.
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