Having said that my backup tool for more complex information, that is shareable, backed-up, and potentially contributable by others is my own personal wiki hosted on my own domain. Dokuwiki I recommend for ease of installation and use.
Ask HN: How do you take notes?
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Re: Ask HN: How do you take notes?
#32This is somewhat tangential to what you're looking for, but I often get a lot of questions in classes about why I'm never, ever taking notes. It's firstly not quite true and secondly something sometimes difficult for people to understand. I think what people often use notes for is as a surrogate memory. There's a desire to search through them for that one gem which will trigger you to remember all that you once knew.…
> I think it's in your best interest to learn instead of memorize
This doesn't necessarily make sense. Memorization is a first step to learning, nothing more. I don't believe you can learn the higher level concepts of any subject without memorizing the details of its primitives at some stage of your study.
Also, I would add that in my experience note-taking is one of the worst possible ways to memorize anything.
> My goal when learning is building my own, real mind maps. Every thing I ingest has to be processed, extended, applied, and connected to other things. You have to act, not just listen and listen more than notate.
Agree 100%. I've found this to be true in pretty much anything I've applied myself to, specifically language study, martial arts and programming.
I think note-taking still has its place. For me its ultimately production. When I need to get my thinking clear on a given subject or problem, I fire up a terminal, write down what I know, what the problem is, and what I need to know to solve it.
Re: Ask HN: How do you take notes?
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#35This is somewhat tangential to what you're looking for, but I often get a lot of questions in classes about why I'm never, ever taking notes. It's firstly not quite true and secondly something sometimes difficult for people to understand. I think what people often use notes for is as a surrogate memory. There's a desire to search through them for that one gem which will trigger you to remember all that you once knew.…
I would agree that in a university lecture, taking notes isn't the most constructive use of your time. > I think it's in your best interest to learn instead of memorize This doesn't necessarily make sense. Memorization is a first step to learning, nothing more. I don't believe you can learn the higher level concepts of any subject without memorizing the details of its primitives at some stage of your study. Also, I w…
I vehemently disagree, maybe because I understood the original statement differently.
In classes, I've watched students diligently write down everything on the blackboard and yet find themselves incapable of answering the simplest question on something just explained (but not written down). They spend all of their mental capacity putting ideas down on paper in front of them, rather than putting those ideas in their brain and playing with them, as they should. They can regurgitate what was just said, sure, but give them new data and ask them to apply a concept just explained with different data, and they're lost. That's the difference between memorization and learning. Memorization is something you can do at home with a textbook. In fact, textbooks have already "memorized" facts for you, why are you doing it at all? When you come to class, you shouldn't be worried about that.
Personally, I'd much rather be in a position to explain (for example) a formula I can't write down exactly, and say what it does and means, and why, than have a thousand formulas memorized which I don't understand.
> I think note-taking still has its place. For me its ultimately production. When I need to get my thinking clear on a given subject or problem, I fire up a terminal, write down what I know, what the problem is, and what I need to know to solve it.
Heh, I do the same thing. cat > /dev/null seems to be my brain's swap space.
Re: Ask HN: How do you take notes?
#36http://www.dave-gallagher.net/coding/CDoublyLinkedList.jpg
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My goal currently is to create a single Numbers document (like a cheat sheet you could take into exams during college), detailing everything that I need to know in C, and/or things that tend to confuse me. It's a living document, being iterated constantly.
Re: Ask HN: How do you take notes?
#37I also use Notational Velocity (http://notational.net/) for a few things that don't need to be outlines and can just be a list, because it is easy to search. My ideal note-taking program would be Notational Velocity, with all text in an outline format instead of free text. (I know you can simulate outlines with the tab key, but the indentation on multi-line bullets is wrong, and you can't drag bullets around like you can in OmniOutliner.)
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#38Anki
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#39Currently I'm learning C taking notes using Numbers (iWork) alongside OminiGraffle. I like to create visual diagrams of complicated things, and then dump them into Numbers alongside text. Actually making the diagrams is the best part, because it helps imprint the info into my brain, and it's more fun than simply taking notes all the time. Here are a few diagrams I made recently: http://www.dave-gallagher.net/coding/C…
If the text book says "array elements are stored in contiguous memory", pause for a second and write a snippet that iterates over an array and prints out their memory addresses. Now, was that a static or dynamic array? if it was static, how do the pointer addresses change if you created the array in the body of a function vs as a global variable? how do the pointers change if you change the array type from int to long to character?
This is the same "convince yourself" techniques that one uses to teach themselves mathematics. Math books are usually terse and require a lot of active participation in one's mind.
Re: Ask HN: How do you take notes?
#40I have a script that simply touches a file with filename in a directory and cracks it open in vi. I hashtag things in the files so I can grep them later, and keep all the files in a private repo on github. I used to be about pen and paper, but after filling out eighteen moleskins with semi-useful info in them, keeping them in a searchable format on the computer starts to make a lot more sense. For actually rememberin…
It has some basic functionality like keeping reference files, search with Xapian, project todo lists that you can easily print in a daily log and check off in a single place.
Haven't ever really thought about making it easily installable etc, not sure what the GTD+vim market/interest would be, but I'd be happy to up the documentation if someone is interested.