Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015) • Hacker News Board

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by krageon » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 9:19 AM UTC

projektir wrote: post #72

trcollinson wrote: post #56

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I think the issue you are probably running into is a lot more nuanced then you are portraying it to be. Whether you are religious or scientific or some mix of both, creating offspring is a pretty fundamental instinct that is very deeply ingrained into humans. Logic might say "If you have a genetic abnormality you should stop procreating for the greater good of society/your potential offspring/yourself". But we aren't…

I think it's really dangerous to talk about we're wired to this or that. It does two things: - give the thing an odd, unearned, protection status: lots of things people are wired to are frankly pretty terrible and we could do without them (hierarchical dominance dynamics); - it's very hard to prove that we're actually wired to something vs it being cultural. Given that we can't even prove this, the above is extra str…

You make a good point, although I have a reservation about you somehow knowing "we could do without" some wired instincts that at first glance seem destructive. It's hard to verify whether or not society would do better if people weren't wired that way, so it seems quite spurious to assume that that would be the case. If you do it from a purely ideological standpoint I can certainly see that, but then you have to recognise it's not a given: It's simply something that you wish was true.

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by krageon » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 9:22 AM UTC

nsxwolf wrote: post #106

quotemstr wrote: post #92

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Cool. We live in the future. Unfortunately, based on some quick reading, the technique is regulated in many areas and used only in cases where some specific genetic disease is suspected. This artificial limitation is a disgrace.

Creating hundreds of human beings and then discarding them is the actual disgrace.

Do you think it is a disgrace to scrape your hand on some pavement? To take a poop? In both of those cases you lose a ton of cells, but I do not think it's reasonable to assume that they are some great loss. They are cells.

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by jessaustin » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 2:00 PM UTC

adrianN wrote: post #107

nsxwolf wrote: post #106

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Creating hundreds of human beings and then discarding them is the actual disgrace.

Embryos at the stage before you implant them into a womb are not human beings.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by abledon » Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 7:10 PM UTC

RickJWagner wrote: post #87

My wife's friend lost both her mother and father to alzheimer's. She is absolutely terrified about it. It's an awful disease. We should make it a top priority to put an end to it.

Common theme in Science is showing how gut bacteria etc... is affecting inflammation and alzheimers. If we "knew" that eating refined sugars/processed foods in our diets was contributing to our chance of getting alzheimers. How many people would actually stop eating refined sugar... probably not as many as we hope

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 1:59 PM UTC

krageon wrote: post #142

nsxwolf wrote: post #106

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Creating hundreds of human beings and then discarding them is the actual disgrace.

Do you think it is a disgrace to scrape your hand on some pavement? To take a poop? In both of those cases you lose a ton of cells, but I do not think it's reasonable to assume that they are some great loss. They are cells.

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