I worked for a company that got acquired by a larger company who happened to have a JV with a Chinese company. A few months after the acquisition, one of us stumbled across a shockingly blatant copy of our product on the Chinese firm’s website. Same box, same ports, same darned WebUI but translated to Chinese. Now this was a hardware product with a weekly data feed, so not only did someone at the JV feed all the spec…
How do you reconcile this with idea that copyright and IP laws are too strong?
Disclaimer: I am speaking from personal experiences and know that, despite these experiences, there are tons of Chinese engineers who work their ass off and maintain great professional integrity. That said...my experience with Chinese graduate students has been incredibly disappointing. While they made up the majority of our graduate computer science program, most had no respect for academic conduct guidelines. I exp…
It’s funny how afraid people are about tiptoeing around this issue. Cheating among chinese students is widespread and blatant, and they do not even pretend to care. They are completely shameless about it. Everyone with Chinese students knows it, but it’s politically incorrect to call it out. Which they are also aware of, and take advantage of.
Seriously HN, every time these posts come up, it becomes a fest for racists to pin their one off experience with Chinese people onto the entire race of people, the definition of racism. I do want to hear an ex-Apple employee doing corporate espionage may be, but I don't want to hear about your Chinese grad students. That has nothing do do with the story other than the race of the individuals. I'm almost at the point…
>...for racists to pin their one off experience with Chinese people onto the entire race of people, the definition of racism.
Seriously HN, every time these posts come up, it becomes a fest for racists to pin their one off experience with Chinese people onto the entire race of people, the definition of racism. I do want to hear an ex-Apple employee doing corporate espionage may be, but I don't want to hear about your Chinese grad students. That has nothing do do with the story other than the race of the individuals. I'm almost at the point…
If you’re afraid of tigers because tigers tend to bite, is that speciesism? If it is, then is speciesism bad or just rational?
I agree that’s a huge part of it that I left out. I guess I threw that in the bin of “cultural differences.”
One of my friends at university had a Chinese student copy off him during an exam without my friend's knowledge. When they received their graded exams back the cheating student came up to my friend yelling at him for making him miss points due to the answers he copied from my friend being incorrect. Of course we embellished the story over the years where the guy was yelling all kinds of things and about how he ruined…
your story reminded me of an experience i had in college taking an Organic Chem exam. The exam took place in an auditorium and I had a hall mate who i studied with sit to my left, and then some jocks (turned out to from another section) sat to my right. The exam was multiple choice and you filled out your answers on a scan sheet. So leery of the jocks, i circled my answers on the test paper, if answer was A, i would circle B, and so on. When i was done i went to the front and filled out the scan sheet. The prof queried as to what i was doing, so i told him and he asked me to also turn in my test paper just in case i messed up. So when the grades got posted, my friend stopped by to ask me if I wanted him to get my grade. I said i would see it later and proceeded to tell him what i did. He did not look to good, and i started to wonder what was up. When i checked my grade later, i saw his....worst grade on the Final. Next year he did not return to school.........he was pre-Med.
Seriously HN, every time these posts come up, it becomes a fest for racists to pin their one off experience with Chinese people onto the entire race of people, the definition of racism. I do want to hear an ex-Apple employee doing corporate espionage may be, but I don't want to hear about your Chinese grad students. That has nothing do do with the story other than the race of the individuals. I'm almost at the point…
So if the normally extremely anti-racism posters of HN have concerns about Chinese people, we should automatically assume it’s racism.
Fascinating how none of the Hacker News comments on a similar story some months back (employee defecting to another company with driverless-technology trade secrets) talked about Anthony Levandowski's nationality or race.
>I would venture to say that there is a cultural disconnect with the Chinese when it comes to the idea of intellectual property. Back when I did business in Asia, we had a cultural training session before our group went over. We were told that in certain Asian nations, especially China but to a lesser extent South Korea and Thailand, the concept of copying someone else's work or intellectual property as a bad thing i…
> Instead, the cultural feeling is that copying someone else's work is a subtle way of honoring them and their work. > learn to respect other people's property Are these two not conflicting? If they feel inspired to use other's work as a way of honoring them, isn't that similar to them respecting their work? I'm just confused because it sounds like most of the time it's a matter of perspective. If you think from the…
If you think from the way you've been brought up that what they're doing is disrespecting other's property, but they see it as respecting - is there a right/wrong?
Life is messy.
As I said in the original comment, other countries have felt the same way, but their views changed as they began to value intellectual property more. Is that right or wrong? The truth is fluid.
Disclaimer: I am speaking from personal experiences and know that, despite these experiences, there are tons of Chinese engineers who work their ass off and maintain great professional integrity. That said...my experience with Chinese graduate students has been incredibly disappointing. While they made up the majority of our graduate computer science program, most had no respect for academic conduct guidelines. I exp…
(posting from a throwaway for obvious reasons) I currently sell to autonomous vehicle (AV) companies and spoke to a number of them. I believe that (most) chinese-money backed AV startup set up "R&D" offices in silicon valley purely for the tech/IP transfer back to China. Just to give you an example, an engineer at one of them boasted to me how his colleague, who used to work at a brand-name-AV-company-you've-heard-of…
I wonder how Tesla will setup their "security" in their Tesla Factory in China. Considering how a worker recently misconfigured their factory software in a malicious manner... They better have some good failsafes ready!