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Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

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Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

#51
Slightly off-topic, a big part of seeing a painting in real life is seeing the structure and layers of brush strokes. It's a long shot but does anyone know if any work has been done to create depth maps of paintings and possibly combine them with scans?

Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

#52

As nice as this is, it would have been even better if they’d used an understandable CC licence instead of the custom non-commercial sub-A4 one they’ve decided on. There are at least a couple of museums now that have licenced their entire digital artworks as CC0[1][2], and I’ve been talking to Munchmuseet in Oslo recently who are planning to licence their entire new digitised collection[3] as CC4 (free use with attrib…

I really don't understand your comment, and all subsequent responses along the same line. The digitized van Gogh paintings are perfect copies of the original public domain works. For the US, Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp. [1] makes it perfectly clear that the images are not protected by copyright, and there is similar law and legislation in Europe.

What do you mean with the ability of the museums to choose a license for the paintings, and what is the "sub-A4" license you refer to?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeman_Art_Library_v._Corel....

Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

#53

As nice as this is, it would have been even better if they’d used an understandable CC licence instead of the custom non-commercial sub-A4 one they’ve decided on. There are at least a couple of museums now that have licenced their entire digital artworks as CC0[1][2], and I’ve been talking to Munchmuseet in Oslo recently who are planning to licence their entire new digitised collection[3] as CC4 (free use with attrib…

If the photos of public domain paintings are exact and not modified, then they also fall under public domain.

Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

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Woah. In an ML class I took last fall we got to design our own classification challenge problems that the entire class then competed on. The one our group made used this exact dataset (the museum website)! We called it VANGOGHORNO haha. We basically pulled the images from the collection and mixed them with non-Van Gogh paintings. It was surprisingly a very learnable dataset, the top two teams got around 97% accuracy…

Sounds like a cool project!

Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

#55
Some of his more famous paintings like Starry Night and Wheatfield with Cypresses aren't here. I guess I'll have to settle for Wheatfield with Crows! The sketches are fantastic tho - you have to scroll quite a ways to get to them but they are worth it.

Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

#56

Slightly off-topic, a big part of seeing a painting in real life is seeing the structure and layers of brush strokes. It's a long shot but does anyone know if any work has been done to create depth maps of paintings and possibly combine them with scans?

Here's a cool paper on doing so:

https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/...

They even 3D printed it!

Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

#57
post #55

Some of his more famous paintings like Starry Night and Wheatfield with Cypresses aren't here. I guess I'll have to settle for Wheatfield with Crows! The sketches are fantastic tho - you have to scroll quite a ways to get to them but they are worth it.

There is a hi-res version of starry night, if you admire that painting here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Van_Gogh_-_Starry_Night_-...

It is 30,000 × 23,756 pixels (file size: 205.1 MB) .

While incomparable to seeing it up close, a lot of brush details can be seen up close. If there was such as thing as a favorite jpg, for me this is it! :-)

Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

#58

Slightly off-topic, a big part of seeing a painting in real life is seeing the structure and layers of brush strokes. It's a long shot but does anyone know if any work has been done to create depth maps of paintings and possibly combine them with scans?

That would be a cool use case for VR headsets.

Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

#59

Slightly off-topic, a big part of seeing a painting in real life is seeing the structure and layers of brush strokes. It's a long shot but does anyone know if any work has been done to create depth maps of paintings and possibly combine them with scans?

Yes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvEZME5ewqA

From memory it's gigapixel streaming textures with a normal map from dense photogrammetry data

Re: Nearly 1,000 Paintings and Drawings by Vincent van Gogh Digitized and Put Online

#60

Slightly off-topic, a big part of seeing a painting in real life is seeing the structure and layers of brush strokes. It's a long shot but does anyone know if any work has been done to create depth maps of paintings and possibly combine them with scans?

That would be a cool use case for VR headsets.

It would also be The End for physical museums. If the appearance of the painting (the "frontal" lightfield under optimal illumination) has been recorded and securely stored... the physical substance of the painting becomes something that is only maintained for sentimental reasons. It's a basic premise of science and engineering that, if you have the recipe, you don't need the artifact. See Walter Benjamin etc on the idea that the original has an "aura" that can't be cloned. Of course it is nonsense, but it foresees the condition of mind-scanning and conversion into digital selves. There's no way any one of us currently alive will exist, consciously, in an electronic system. There's no way to transfer consciousness from the biological to the electronic substrate, though one can dream (as Greg Egan has) of shifting a conscious brain from one system to another.

In brief, human consciousness and artistic judgement isn't going away, for a couple of centuries at least.

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