Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

>Because your entire series of posts in this thread thus far have been nothing but questioning the motives of Elon Musk

It's not a question. I quite literally detailed what factually has happened. It isn't up for debate. He again, quite literally, decided to discredit and defame the lead of the rescue efforts in attempt to white wash several people calling him out on a very, very obvious PR stunt. They were halfway through the rescue operation while he was tweeting about hauling a 300lb pound tube through a tight cave system.

>Even if you're correct you're a hypocrite to complain about someone doing the same to you.

Pointing out and supporting a common criticism of a largely public figure is quite different than personally attacking someone reiterating that critique. If the difference is not appreciable to you then there's like 50 different things that need explaining and I am definitely not going to waste my time doing that.

>The only reason I knew that Musk was even involved in this whole mess was because of his detractors.

Really? Not the mainstream media outlets reporting about it? Or the 600k+ shares on various tweets? You found out because of random internet comments complaining about it, in threads that had nothing to do with those reports?

That seems very, very far fetched and beggars belief.

>I don't personally see any reason to doubt Musk's stated motives

You don't think a clear, consistent pattern of doing the same thing over and over again for unoriginal benefits is not a valid reason to doubt someone's motives? That seems pretty naive.

Allow me to reiterate what just went down:

Elon Musk came out and publicly attempted to put down and dismiss the chief of the rescue operation, the other people who chose not to use the submarine, while also bolstering up the guy he had a personal email correspondence with just as an attempt to counter people's criticism that he is, yet again, just engaging in empty PR (ask yourself why he is constantly engaged in this).

Your suggested and proposed response to this, by your own words, is not attempt to educate people on what's actually going on here, but to simply ignore it. How do you think that's actually going to pan out? Why is doing nothing against misinformation that aids corporate propaganda okay, but somehow personally attacking people with vague fallacies not only somehow rationally acceptable (it's not, but I'll let you attempt to answer it), but suddenly worth your time?

Seems a bit odd.

From the article: "in 1820, 94 percent of the world’s population lived in extreme poverty (...). In 1990 this figure was 34.8 percent, and in 2015, just 9.6 percent."

You think it's okay to debase the chief of the rescue operation, ignore the advice he took from multiple teams, and cherry pick a personal email correspondence with one guy that basically just says "keep trying" just so Musk can dance around, yet again, people pointing out a potential PR stunt?

I don't know what level of social ineptness is required to ignore not only the blatant insult against the chief, but Musk's presumably unintentional insult to the rest of the team that informed the chief what they thought about Musk's idea to carry a 300lb tube through volatile currents in a tight, murky cave system.

Talk about domain specialization.

thanks elon

The expertise you'd want for drilling an emergency rescue tunnel would be a combination of skills related to drilling roughly pipe-sized vertical shafts [1] (mining/oil services, or maybe the companies themselves; I don't know what the exact breakdown of work packages end up being) and remote (specifically mountainous and jungle, in this case) infrastructure and logistics, which is military or again mining/oil services. Possibly a geologist or two on hand to assess the rock layers and identify hydrographic hazards as well as risks such as accidentally causing cave-ins. For the cave diving extraction, you'd want experienced cave divers, ideally ones with good first aid knowledge and cave rescue experience. For any further expertise, I wouldn't suggest anything without hearing the observations from the cave divers who have just explored the cave themselves.

There is no evidence presented that Musk, nor any of his companies, has any of this kind of useful expertise.

[1] Emphasis here on vertical shafts. There is a world of difference between a tunnel-boring machine that tends to remain within a single geological stratum and a vertical shaft that is constantly cutting through several strata of different kinds of rock (that require different cutting techniques).