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Re: Firefox Lockbox

#101
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, us guys and gals working on the app are planning on the iOS 12 autofill API integration: https://github.com/mozilla-lockbox/lockbox-ios/issues/445

I think you mean https://github.com/mozilla-lockbox/lockbox-ios/issues/486 :)

Yes, thank you! Moving too fast today. :)

Re: Firefox Lockbox

#102

I installed it and will compare it to Lastpass (which is pretty good IMO). HOWEVER, it saddens me to read on the front page: "using 256-bit encryption". I'd really expect the competent people at Mozilla to know that this statement means next to nothing. At the very minimum I want to know: 1) HOW is the key derived (say, "derived used PBKDF2 on the Firefox username + password") 2) WHERE is it encrypted (I assume "encr…

Firefox Lockbox architect here. Thank you for the feedback. Your comment is fair; we can, and will, do better on the details. The language we have today is the balance marketing, security reviewers, and engineering could reach for the masses to feel informed without being overwhelmed and confused. As you found, Firefox Accounts derives the encryption key from your username and password on the client-side; the server…

>The language we have today is the balance marketing, security reviewers, and engineering could reach for the masses to feel informed without being overwhelmed and confused.

It would be fantastic to have a 'more details' page, where the nitty-gritty is detailed for those who care.

Re: Firefox Lockbox

#104

Can't believe they didn't call it Lockfox.

Firebox Lockfox? Firelock Boxfox? Lockfire Foxbox? Ugh, we tried them all, I swear..

Just plain old Lockfox. However, I understand you probably have some branding/marketing/PR concerns to keep in mind with naming.

Re: Firefox Lockbox

#105

Has anyone done a thoughtful comparison of PW managers? I moved on from keepass because it was a huge hassle to use, but LastPass and 1password both have some detractors as well.

Keepass' copy&paste/autotype always felt like a hassle to me and also a bit insecure. When I was looking for alternatives for Keepass 2 I discovered the Kee [1] plugin for Firefox which communicates with Keepass via the RPC plugin. It's great and made me stay with Keepass. Login fields are automatically filled reliably without any issues. Registering accounts is easier too: just choose a username, let Kee generate a password, submit the form and then click the button to save the entry - all without having to use the Keepass UI at all.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/keefox/

Re: Firefox Lockbox

#106

Has anyone done a thoughtful comparison of PW managers? I moved on from keepass because it was a huge hassle to use, but LastPass and 1password both have some detractors as well.

> Has anyone done a thoughtful comparison of PW managers?

I think a valuable comparison would not be of features but of the security, and therefore a person comparing them would need real security expertise. I'd worry about bad information from non-experts. In the past, at least some security experts on HN have recommended 1Password.

All these people storing all their secrets in one place creates an exceptionally valuable target that I expect, IMHO, will attract well-resourced attacks. Find a way to crack Lastpass, and imagine what you have - it's the ultimate breach (and if you are smart, nobody will know).

To be a net gain in security, a password manager needs very effective security for itself. If the user wants something to ease the burden of managing all those exposed passwords, then perhaps features are the issue.

Re: Firefox Lockbox

#107
post #82
post #51

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I was tired of browser plugins that just didn't always work quite right. Keepass, on whatever platform using whatever client, just uses the clipboard. 100% chance of working, although not safe against certain types of spyware.

It's not all clipboard based - Keepass has an RPC plugin that can be used with browser extensions for Firefox and Chrome. I also use Keepass2android for (duh) Android, and while you can use copy/paste it also has a custom keyboard you can use instead.

True, there are other options, but the fact that it works really well as a simple list of my passwords is what I like most about it.

Between Chrome's cross-platform autofill, Firefox's autofill, and browser plugins, I have too many things telling me what my password should be. s

Re: Firefox Lockbox

#108
post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox Lockbox architect here. Thank you for the feedback. Your comment is fair; we can, and will, do better on the details. The language we have today is the balance marketing, security reviewers, and engineering could reach for the masses to feel informed without being overwhelmed and confused. As you found, Firefox Accounts derives the encryption key from your username and password on the client-side; the server…

>The language we have today is the balance marketing, security reviewers, and engineering could reach for the masses to feel informed without being overwhelmed and confused. It would be fantastic to have a 'more details' page, where the nitty-gritty is detailed for those who care.

Thanks for this, and wanting to know more! We're working on expanding our docs to add this.

Re: Firefox Lockbox

#109
post #12

The iOS app seems to be region-locked to U.S. only App Store.

Only for now. This is just the beginning of an experimental product and we're hoping to bring it far and wide later. Other than "every", what language or regions would you want/expect/need first?

Honestly, the region shouldn't matter. If you want you could add a little notice that it's English-only for now, but there's absolutely no reason to limit this to a particular country. It's a totally free service and it doesn't involve complicated region-specific licensing agreements, so where someone lives quite simply does not matter.

Re: Firefox Lockbox

#110

Has anyone done a thoughtful comparison of PW managers? I moved on from keepass because it was a huge hassle to use, but LastPass and 1password both have some detractors as well.

Wirecutter has done a comparison of them. https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-password-managers/

And they picked the one that has had several high-profile security breaches... Not very credible.
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