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Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics

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#Bug report Data doesn't include selected end date. [STRs] In top right, select 7/8 as start date and 7/10 as end date. [Expected] Displays data for 7/8, 7/9, and 7/10. [Actual] Displays data for 7/8 and 7/9 only.

Just a wild guess, but it's probably filtering from 2018-07-08T00:00:00 to 2018-07-10T00:00:00 (instead of ending at 2018-07-10T23:59:59).

Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics

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post #71

#Bug report Data doesn't include selected end date. [STRs] In top right, select 7/8 as start date and 7/10 as end date. [Expected] Displays data for 7/8, 7/9, and 7/10. [Actual] Displays data for 7/8 and 7/9 only.

Just a wild guess, but it's probably filtering from 2018-07-08T00:00:00 to 2018-07-10T00:00:00 (instead of ending at 2018-07-10T23:59:59).

I'm guessing the same, but it's still not expected behavior.

Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics

#74

> Want to see a demo of Fathom? View our live stats here (user: demo@demo.com, password: demo) This is UX feedback from a lazy user. Why make me type in a login and password? Especially one that I have to remember from the previous screen? It's trivial effort to just setup an auto login based on some query string parameter right? As in, url?demo=true results in either populating the login/password fields so all I hav…

while i 100% agree with you that our demo (hi! i'm author 2/2 of this software) should just log you in without asking for credentials... we're 100% focused on the product right now, and being near the top of HN was a huge surprise to us as well.

we are working on ironing out the UX of our site (it's a single column of text, that we whipped together in an hour, so we could focus on building the software). so it's completely a work in progress at this particular moment.

Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics

#75

Reminds me of Guag.es https://get.gaug.es/ or https://haveamint.com/ if you want to dig into the crates a bit.

i miss haveamint! that's one of the reasons we're making fathom, there were decent + simple options before, so we wanted to take a stab at making one too.

Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics

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> The problem is this: if we aren’t paying for the product, we are the product. This quote keeps living on endlessly. It's based on a naive and terribly over-simplified view of the internet, 'free' products, and capitalism in general. TLDR: Consumers aren't the product if the product would not exist without customers, and customers wouldn't be on the product unless it provides them value. Not to mention publisher web…

I agree that it's simplistic, but it captures the fact that organizations need money to survive. Yes, companies offering "free" products have to serve two masters: the ones who use the product, and the ones who pay the bills. For many, the temptation will be strong to maximize profits as far as possible without completely losing the users. Facebook has been in the news a lot because of this very thing. I think the co…

jarod lanier and ezra klein talk about this in a recent episode of klein's show: companies can become more durable and much more aligned with the needs of their customers if they get paid directly by those customers (instead of selling those customers and making money off a third party, like advertisers).

Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics

#77
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Hey, author here (one of 2). Whoa, I did not expect to see Fathom show up on Hacker News. It's very early but our plan is indeed to go down a similar road as Matomo, albeit more opinionated. Hopefully resulting in a simpler product in the long run. I feel it's important to point out out that with Fathom, no personal information is tracked (or stored), at all. Only daily and hourly aggregates are stored on the server.…

I love where you are going with this, I think this would be useful for a lot of people in marketing where Google Analytics is too much. But are you concerned that GA will come out with an "overview panel" for dummies, that cuts into your appeal? Or do you have a plan to stay ahead if GA comes out with a view like this?

Thanks! We're not too concerned about that too be honest, we'll still be open-source with the ability to self-host after all. Something that Google Analytics will never offer.

Given the current state of Google Analytics, staying ahead in terms of simplicity shouldn't be an issue for a long, long time.

Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics

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For people looking for similar options, there's also Matomo[1] (previously Piwik) that you can self-host for free. [1] https://matomo.org/

Careful with the innocraft hosted options. I checked it out the other week (looking for a GA alternative) and they were sending out passwords in plain text.

Really looking forward to trying Fathom.

Re: Fathom – Simple, trustworthy website analytics

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post #2

For people looking for similar options, there's also Matomo[1] (previously Piwik) that you can self-host for free. [1] https://matomo.org/

unfortunately, matomo is harder than necessary to automatically deploy to containerized environments like heroku because they don't support the 12 factor principles [1]. a cynic might assume that this is because it would undermine their own hosted solution.

[1] https://github.com/matomo-org/matomo/issues/6223

(i would use matomo if they fixed this issue)

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