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Tesla plans China factory that can make 500,000 vehicles a year

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Re: Tesla plans China factory that can make 500,000 vehicles a year

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mkhalil wrote: post #18

Tesla should be very wary of the very real threat from corporate espionage in China. Brining a factory to China would allow a bad actor to really get into enterprise and create even better clones. Tesla wouldn't be able to keep up financially if Chinese manufactures built cars using Tesla research resources. side thought: Maybe TESLA turns into a research company that sells its IP to manufactures instead of actually…

Teslas stated goal is improving the adoption of sustainable energy; selling cars is only a part of it.

Perhaps they feel that a little espionage is worth it to get 500000 electric cars a year onto Chinese roads?

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mkhalil wrote: post #18

Tesla should be very wary of the very real threat from corporate espionage in China. Brining a factory to China would allow a bad actor to really get into enterprise and create even better clones. Tesla wouldn't be able to keep up financially if Chinese manufactures built cars using Tesla research resources. side thought: Maybe TESLA turns into a research company that sells its IP to manufactures instead of actually…

I'm doubtful this will happen, based on what we've seen in the car industry in the past. Foreign car companies have had to build cars via Chinese joint ventures for decades, and as yet, not a single Chinese car company has seen any large success outside of China.

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mkhalil wrote: post #18

Tesla should be very wary of the very real threat from corporate espionage in China. Brining a factory to China would allow a bad actor to really get into enterprise and create even better clones. Tesla wouldn't be able to keep up financially if Chinese manufactures built cars using Tesla research resources. side thought: Maybe TESLA turns into a research company that sells its IP to manufactures instead of actually…

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mkhalil wrote: post #18

Tesla should be very wary of the very real threat from corporate espionage in China. Brining a factory to China would allow a bad actor to really get into enterprise and create even better clones. Tesla wouldn't be able to keep up financially if Chinese manufactures built cars using Tesla research resources. side thought: Maybe TESLA turns into a research company that sells its IP to manufactures instead of actually…

Doesn't Microsoft, Apple, Cisco, AMD already do that?

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mkhalil wrote: post #18

Tesla should be very wary of the very real threat from corporate espionage in China. Brining a factory to China would allow a bad actor to really get into enterprise and create even better clones. Tesla wouldn't be able to keep up financially if Chinese manufactures built cars using Tesla research resources. side thought: Maybe TESLA turns into a research company that sells its IP to manufactures instead of actually…

The advantage of a great technology company is its ability to continue innovating, make hard decisions, and maintain a commitment to quality.

You could take all of Tesla's IP and hand it to any company and they couldn't do anything with it except use it to burn money.

Tesla is the first choice for great engineers interested in its fields of work. The reason is that Elon Musk wants to help them do great work and he actually knows how to help them do it. He's not perfect but he's the best there is today and he's only getting better.

Great technology companies are like massive gravitational anomalies for a specific field. Until their power fades or a more powerful anomaly comes along it's impossible to beat them.

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Post by SCAQTony »

mkhalil wrote: post #18

Tesla should be very wary of the very real threat from corporate espionage in China. Brining a factory to China would allow a bad actor to really get into enterprise and create even better clones. Tesla wouldn't be able to keep up financially if Chinese manufactures built cars using Tesla research resources. side thought: Maybe TESLA turns into a research company that sells its IP to manufactures instead of actually…

Ancient Rome exported its wine agriculture technology to France so wine could be created in abundance and cheaper. Look how well that worked out for Italy.

"...The founding of France's other great wine regions is not as clear. The Romans' propensity for planting on hillsides has left archaeological evidence of Gallo-Roman vineyards in the chalk hillsides of Sancerre. In the 4th century, the Emperor Julian had a vineyard near Paris on the hill of Montmartre, and a 5th-century villa in what is now Épernay shows the Roman influence in the Champagne region.[13] "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Rome_and_wine

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Post by pavs »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #16
whatok wrote: post #15

Can someone more knowledgeable tell me what good a MOU in China is?

> what good a MOU in China is? Jack shit.

You do realize China is the second largest consumer market in the world? If MOU were jack shit, people wouldn't be doing business there. Many companies intentionally share their IP in order to do business in China.

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ricw wrote: post #32
mkhalil wrote: post #18

Tesla should be very wary of the very real threat from corporate espionage in China. Brining a factory to China would allow a bad actor to really get into enterprise and create even better clones. Tesla wouldn't be able to keep up financially if Chinese manufactures built cars using Tesla research resources. side thought: Maybe TESLA turns into a research company that sells its IP to manufactures instead of actually…

I'm doubtful this will happen, based on what we've seen in the car industry in the past. Foreign car companies have had to build cars via Chinese joint ventures for decades, and as yet, not a single Chinese car company has seen any large success outside of China.

The Chinese market is large enough for them to not care about anything outside of China for now. There are various cheaply made clones of popular Western cars in China and none of them will pass any Western crash test.

The advantage of those cars on the Chinese market is that they cost only a fraction of any Western car and middle-class Chinese can actually afford them.

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