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Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by dmix »

tgb wrote: post #56
pcnix wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was something that happened last week, and was very widely publicized then. I remember reading it on the front page of every newspaper site I visited.

I see, I was probably not paying attention to the story at the time. I still find it odd that these summary articles after the fact seem to be ignoring the fact that one person died during the rescue attempt. I'd have expected more "heroic efforts on the part of Thai divers, including one who gave his life,..." kind of lines in the first three paragraphs. Edit: the NYT online front page now mentions him, so maybe it…

Are you basing this merely on one NYT article you read announcing their rescue a week after a diver died?

I not only got notified by multiple newspapers on my phone, I later saw pictures and a video of the funeral completely surrounded by cameras, which I learn the Thai royalty entirely paid for.

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by factsaresacred »

Great thread covering all of the volunteers here: https://twitter.com/duduang2/status/1016301667380224000

Highlight:

> "This man...drove more than 200 km just to give ice-cream to the rescue team"

While this level of selflessness and generosity can be found almost anywhere, the Thais are truly some of the most gracious people you'll meet. That country is a gem.

The society is currently torn apart politically (similar, but different, to the polarization in the US) so good to see something unite the nation. And with such a happy ending, too.

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by phyzome »

eagsalazar2 wrote: post #119
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #15

Can anyone explain how the heck they found the children in the first place? Seriously, I can't wrap my head around it. The kids were stranded 2.5 miles inside the cave. All anyone knew was that the kids didn't return form their hike. How does that lead to "Hey, let's dive into the cave and maybe we'll find live children"? I guess they were expecting the worst, but still.

I was surprised to hear that there were long stretches of dry walking between their location in the cave and the cave entrance. In particular there were dry stretches prior to the very nasty tiny hole they all squeezed through. I guess they were panicked and ran further than they needed to just to be extra sure?

I don't know the details, but the article describes them as simply walking to the location they were found in. I wonder if the route they walked is now impassable due to flooding, but wasn't at the time, and whether the rescue route was simply the least worst path...

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by unixhero »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #15

Can anyone explain how the heck they found the children in the first place? Seriously, I can't wrap my head around it. The kids were stranded 2.5 miles inside the cave. All anyone knew was that the kids didn't return form their hike. How does that lead to "Hey, let's dive into the cave and maybe we'll find live children"? I guess they were expecting the worst, but still.

Well from the beginning. The bikes were left outside within the entrance of the cave. That's a pretty positive indicator for searchers.

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by davidw »

misja111 wrote: post #158
davidw wrote: post #66

I wonder if it'd be possible to use some of the momentum and talent from this to mount a rescue attempt to save the children trapped in cages in the United States.

Children trapped in cages? Is this happening a lot in the US?

Yes. Hundreds - maybe thousands of them.

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by booleandilemma »

rusk wrote: post #51
sametmax wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amazing part to me is that it was 12 kids and one adult. Between the fear and the biological needs, I wonder what kept them alive for so long. First, the first time I fasted I was quited stressed about it, and it was in controlled, cozy environment. Second, they didn't know if anybody would come. Not even if somebody could come. For 9 days without eating and living in their own shit in the dark, they wondered. I'…

> For 9 days without eating and living in their own shit in the dark Not to mention the cold. There's a hero-story about the coach that's yet to be told I reckon.

A story Mark Wahlberg will be happy to tell.

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by nAwYz »

the_spacebyte wrote: post #178
dekhn wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't do anything to help- I don't think saving 12 people in a Thailand cave means a lot, globally speaking. Why do you say he was asked to do something? He offered to help. More realistically, however, he should have chosen to stay out of the way- he didn't get his device to the site until the rescue operation was already half completed. It wouldn't have worked anyway- it wasn't fit for the purpose. Getting a bun…

Here https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1015105500105412610 Yes it was not an official call for help, but someone asked. He even acknowledged that experts were already on the field, and his first reaction was to just send goods there before advancing with engineering ideas. Following your idea why were there so many civilian divers? Why not let the Thai military do the job? That's just PR. Those attention-seeking ba…

The difference between the divers and Musk is that the divers did it without announcing their plans on Twitter. They just when there and helped. I think it's good that Musk tried to help, but the publicity he got with it makes me question his motivations. There is also no need for personal attacks

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by dmix »

yani wrote: post #98
thewizardofaus wrote: post #9

Awesome news. But how long until Hollywood capitalizes on this event and makes a movie? "... Based on a true story, starring insert big name actor here ..."

The film crew are already in the cave filming. It is not a bad thing since everyone trapped is out. They have to collect as much data as possible while everything is still fresh

Interesting stories (like this) are extremely valuable to our species. The movie about the Chilean miners [1] being trapped was an amazing film and I learned much about the conditions of miners and mine safety from viewing it and reading up on it later. It also shined a light on the local Chilean politics at the time.

It's hardly just mere Hollywood money grabbing IMO.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2006295/

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by jacobush »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #103
jacobush wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He himself said something akin to "I may be a narcissist, but at least a useful one".

Is the second half of this even true? If you create something that is impractical for the mission and won't be used have you been useful at all? I think not.

If he is, I am sure he thinks in larger terms - helping humanity out more than dragging it down.
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