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and US$3m
Most of the money and equipment were donated.
While it may be true, not really the point GP was getting after.
Cost or donation, can we expect the same for every child in need?
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
The coach. He shared what little rations they had, and his condition was visibly worse than the children by the time they were found. He also helped them by teaching them meditation, so as not to focus on their hunger.
> He also helped them by teaching them meditation, so as not to focus on their hunger. Learning meditation is hard. Learning meditation when you are scared, hungry and in such a bad situation is extra hard. So if the guy pulled it off with 12 terrorized famished kids for 9 days, he deserves his own temple.
People in general are able of amazing deeds under the threat of death.
Unfortunately it's why we are able to wage war. Was watching a documentary on the Vietnam war the other day and one guy was describing how he felt like an automaton that was focusing only on survival, which kept him from going insane, while another guy was describing how he felt no pain from his bullet injuries while trying to stay alive alone in the jungle for 3 days, only feeling pain after he was rescued.
But yeah, this coach is a hero for sure, I'm so glad they made it out.
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#113Why is this on hacker news?
13 people were rescued from 2 something miles inside a cave by an international effort that involved engineers, possible plans for a drilling effort, master divers and even had people repurposing spacecraft parts and accessories to attempt to make a rescue pod in time to be of use. Humans came together to find a solution to a difficult, life or death, situation. That's why.
They were 1.5 miles in (2.5km as the story states) not that it's important, just a units crusade. This could have been so much worse if the rains hadn't held off as they did.
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#114Story of the year for me. Just goes to show what we can accomplish together.
Hopefully it will go as a +1 in our ledger if the fate of our species is ever decided
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
He himself said something akin to "I may be a narcissist, but at least a useful one".
Is the second half of this even true? If you create something that is impractical for the mission and won't be used have you been useful at all? I think not.
With a little more time before the rescue and consultation with divers familiar with the caves, they might have come up with something more effective.
But he did also send 700 or so PowerWall batteries to Puerto Rico for hospitals and whatnot.
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#116I'm more surprised by the fact that they went that far into the cave in the first place! The coach should be in prison now for putting so many kids in danger and be the cause of a rescue diver death!
The cave had warning signs about entering during certain months due to the rainy season. The team didn't disobey the warnings - they went in the month before signs said not to go in. The rains came early.
It's hard to fault the team/coach, since they heeded the posted warnings. I have a feeling the signs will be changed after this.
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Musk had no business being involved. Really, 'inventing' a MVP prototype of a submarine which he 'tested' in a swimming pool and then intended to test for real on live children, when an existing rescue effort underway was working? This was egoism at its finest, taking public credit for 'helping' with a rescue he wasn't invited or asked to help with. And the media ate it up hook, line and sinker.
>and then intended to test for real on live children, when an existing rescue effort underway was working? It was a good alternative to telling them to hold their breath and dragging them through dark and claustrophobic submerged spaces... They tested it to make sure it was water-tight and easy to maneuver. Worst case you throw an oxygen tank in it and put a full-face regulator on each kid in the event it would have…
I don't understand the submarine idea, that is an untested device for cave diving, also human breath from a very localized part of their body, so their is no point to pressurize everything, and you keep the flexibility of the body to not have a full metal cylinder around you. If you need to control someone, some anti anxiety pills and a harness are some tested tools for that.
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#118Can anyone explain how the heck they found the children in the first place? Seriously, I can't wrap my head around it. The kids were stranded 2.5 miles inside the cave. All anyone knew was that the kids didn't return form their hike. How does that lead to "Hey, let's dive into the cave and maybe we'll find live children"? I guess they were expecting the worst, but still.
Partially dumb luck. - “A ranger of the Department of National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation alerted authorities to the missing group after seeing their unclaimed belongings at the cave entrance.” - “Volanthen was placing guidelines in the cave to later assist others in navigation. He ran out of line, which led him to swim to the surface—there, he found the missing team and its coach.” https://en.wikipedia.o…
Can you imagine being there for days and days and suddenly a diver pops up?
Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued
#119Can anyone explain how the heck they found the children in the first place? Seriously, I can't wrap my head around it. The kids were stranded 2.5 miles inside the cave. All anyone knew was that the kids didn't return form their hike. How does that lead to "Hey, let's dive into the cave and maybe we'll find live children"? I guess they were expecting the worst, but still.
I was surprised to hear that there were long stretches of dry walking between their location in the cave and the cave entrance. In particular there were dry stretches prior to the very nasty tiny hole they all squeezed through. I guess they were panicked and ran further than they needed to just to be extra sure?
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
The coach. He shared what little rations they had, and his condition was visibly worse than the children by the time they were found. He also helped them by teaching them meditation, so as not to focus on their hunger.
> He also helped them by teaching them meditation, so as not to focus on their hunger. Learning meditation is hard. Learning meditation when you are scared, hungry and in such a bad situation is extra hard. So if the guy pulled it off with 12 terrorized famished kids for 9 days, he deserves his own temple.
Not to belittle his accomplishment, but it's the times of great hardship where the search for meaning flourishes. See Viktor Frankl. It is the gift hidden in the horror.