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Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by rusk »

sametmax wrote: post #5
bitcharmer wrote: post #2

I was so glad to learn about it. This was such an unlikely rescue mission and amazingly heroic effort from everyone involved. If I was religious I'd say this was a miracle. Just very happy every one is ok.

The amazing part to me is that it was 12 kids and one adult. Between the fear and the biological needs, I wonder what kept them alive for so long. First, the first time I fasted I was quited stressed about it, and it was in controlled, cozy environment. Second, they didn't know if anybody would come. Not even if somebody could come. For 9 days without eating and living in their own shit in the dark, they wondered. I'…

> For 9 days without eating and living in their own shit in the dark

Not to mention the cold.

There's a hero-story about the coach that's yet to be told I reckon.

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by sandworm101 »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #15

Can anyone explain how the heck they found the children in the first place? Seriously, I can't wrap my head around it. The kids were stranded 2.5 miles inside the cave. All anyone knew was that the kids didn't return form their hike. How does that lead to "Hey, let's dive into the cave and maybe we'll find live children"? I guess they were expecting the worst, but still.

The cave was well known and documented. They made an educated guess about what happened, where they would have fled, and where the air pockets would be.

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by rusk »

StavrosK wrote: post #49
epx wrote: post #12

It was a near tragedy, a man died in the process, but someway it is comforting to see everybody concentrated on a problem like this, trying to help fellow people, than waging war etc.

"Near" tragedy? A man died.

but not for nothing - he was instrumental in saving 13 lives

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by Theodores »

joshmaker wrote: post #33
ryanmercer wrote: post #3

Awesome! I love how the global diving community came together to rescue them, it's unfortunate that Petty Officer Saman Gunan died after doing a run of oxygen tanks to the caves though. I even liked how Musk came out of left field "grab that tube, we're making a rescue pod!" and then hopped on a plane with it when it was tested and ready. While it didn't really matter I like that sort of thinking outside of the box a…

Call me cynical, but I couldn't help but notice Musk seemed to be going about his effort with the maximum amount of tweeting and publicity possible.

I wonder how many on HN are thinking more about Elon Musk's now-not-needed rescue plan than the delight those mothers of those boys must be feeling!

There is also a tragedy going on in Japan right now with a lot of people actually with us no more. But a few million people with flooded homes is a 'statistic' whereas a few boys in a cave is a 'tragedy' to paraphrase Stalin.

I think that there is a time for offering assistance in a big public way, there is also the 'George Michael' approach. He was willing to help many desperate people that happened to get into the news, however he helped out anonymously or in a way where it was clear that publicity was not sought. When he passed away a lot of people then learned how many people he had extended his hand of friendship to.

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by tgb »

pcnix wrote: post #44
tgb wrote: post #31

Why wasn't the death of Saman Gunan more widely publicized? I barely heard about it - in the NYT article on this it's a single sentence 2/3rds of the way through the article. I'd have thought that the concept of someone sacrificing themselves for the recovery of 12 children would have been a major story. The Guardian's liveblog (or whatever this is) doesn't mention it in the first couple pages, nor do the responses o…

It was something that happened last week, and was very widely publicized then. I remember reading it on the front page of every newspaper site I visited.

I see, I was probably not paying attention to the story at the time. I still find it odd that these summary articles after the fact seem to be ignoring the fact that one person died during the rescue attempt. I'd have expected more "heroic efforts on the part of Thai divers, including one who gave his life,..." kind of lines in the first three paragraphs.

Edit: the NYT online front page now mentions him, so maybe it was just a matter of scrambling out the news that the rescue was complete (though I'd have expected them to write that copy in advance).

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by coldseattle »

tgb wrote: post #31

Why wasn't the death of Saman Gunan more widely publicized? I barely heard about it - in the NYT article on this it's a single sentence 2/3rds of the way through the article. I'd have thought that the concept of someone sacrificing themselves for the recovery of 12 children would have been a major story. The Guardian's liveblog (or whatever this is) doesn't mention it in the first couple pages, nor do the responses o…

For that matter, why wasn't this more widely publicized?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/07/06/56-missing-in-thai-r...

It's just what happens....some people capture the public's hearts and minds, and some don't.

Re: Thailand cave rescue: all 12 boys and coach successfully rescued

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Post by sillysaurus3 »

sametmax wrote: post #5
bitcharmer wrote: post #2

I was so glad to learn about it. This was such an unlikely rescue mission and amazingly heroic effort from everyone involved. If I was religious I'd say this was a miracle. Just very happy every one is ok.

The amazing part to me is that it was 12 kids and one adult. Between the fear and the biological needs, I wonder what kept them alive for so long. First, the first time I fasted I was quited stressed about it, and it was in controlled, cozy environment. Second, they didn't know if anybody would come. Not even if somebody could come. For 9 days without eating and living in their own shit in the dark, they wondered. I'…

The coach.

He shared what little rations they had, and his condition was visibly worse than the children by the time they were found.

He also helped them by teaching them meditation, so as not to focus on their hunger.

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