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Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Container Linux

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Re: Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Container Linux

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This is exactly what I thought would happen when I switched off of CoreOS earlier this year. I recently switched back[0] since according to their blog post[1] Container Linux would live and not be replaced by their Atomic project... I thought I was a fool for overreacting.

I don't want OpenShift, it looks like a bloated clusterfuck. I don't want Atomic either -- Container Linux had all the pieces I needed and not much else, along with innovation just where it was needed (the update engine).

It might not mean much to Red Hat in the economical sense right now but Red Hat has gotten a red strike in my book from this. I won't forget. Corporate double speak/renegging on acqui-hired goodwill normally doesn't get me so riled up but man if my jimmies aren't rustled right now.

What does everyone else use for their server distros? Is debian the way to go? Ubuntu seems bloated but maybe I just don't know enough about the fat that is cut out of Ubuntu Server? CentOS and Fedora are stable but they seem like they update too slowly, is my assumption wrong?

[EDIT] - This post is likely an overreaction (again?) -- as pointed out by others the linked thread is from May 2018 -- so my reaction is very much delayed. If I had seen this thread when I made my decision to switch back to Container Linux, I wouldn't have.

I'll likely be moving to flatcar linux[2].

[0]: https://vadosware.io/post/yet-another-cluster-reinstall-back...

[1]: https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-acqui...

[2]: https://www.flatcar-linux.org/

Re: Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Container Linux

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This is exactly what I thought would happen when I switched off of CoreOS earlier this year. I recently switched back[0] since according to their blog post[1] Container Linux would live and not be replaced by their Atomic project... I thought I was a fool for overreacting. I don't want OpenShift, it looks like a bloated clusterfuck. I don't want Atomic either -- Container Linux had all the pieces I needed and not muc…

I think many are using Alpine linux [1]. It's very light weight and seem to be well suited for the task.

[1] https://www.alpinelinux.org/

Re: Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Container Linux

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This is exactly what I thought would happen when I switched off of CoreOS earlier this year. I recently switched back[0] since according to their blog post[1] Container Linux would live and not be replaced by their Atomic project... I thought I was a fool for overreacting. I don't want OpenShift, it looks like a bloated clusterfuck. I don't want Atomic either -- Container Linux had all the pieces I needed and not muc…

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Re: Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Container Linux

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This is exactly what I thought would happen when I switched off of CoreOS earlier this year. I recently switched back[0] since according to their blog post[1] Container Linux would live and not be replaced by their Atomic project... I thought I was a fool for overreacting. I don't want OpenShift, it looks like a bloated clusterfuck. I don't want Atomic either -- Container Linux had all the pieces I needed and not muc…

I don't read that as openshift being the replacement. I read that as openshift being the first target of integration efforts, with the replacement coming afterwards.

Re: Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Container Linux

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I think the title needs to be fixed, it's a tad sensationalist. The Google Groups message is just "Container Linux project update" and is dated May 18th. Since then, there has been more clarification [0], [1], [2], that really calls out a rationalization of the RH roadmap and where CoreOS fits. It might be fair to say that RH doesnt plan to support "CoreOS Container Linux" in exactly the fashion prior to acquisition, but it would be disingenuous to imply it is being wholly discontinued.

[0] https://coreos.com/blog/coreos-tech-to-combine-with-red-hat-...

[1] https://coreos.com/blog/fedora-coreos-red-hat-coreos-and-fut...

[2] https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-coreos/

Re: Fedora CoreOS, Red Hat CoreOS, and the future of Container Linux

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This is exactly what I thought would happen when I switched off of CoreOS earlier this year. I recently switched back[0] since according to their blog post[1] Container Linux would live and not be replaced by their Atomic project... I thought I was a fool for overreacting. I don't want OpenShift, it looks like a bloated clusterfuck. I don't want Atomic either -- Container Linux had all the pieces I needed and not muc…

OpenShift is really garbage. Everything red hat adds just makes it worse, and it's a lot slower. The installer is absurdly slow also.
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