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In Hong Kong, flats really are cheaper when they contain the number 4

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Re: In Hong Kong, flats really are cheaper when they contain the number 4

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In the states it's quite common to number the floors of a building by avoiding the number 13. I think this is pure madness. 10, 11, 12, 14, 15... All of that because of a fantasy book where people had supper and they happen to be 13 at the table. Edit: Here's an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_(number)#/media/File:Many_b...

Which is odd, because regardless how you number a floor, some floor really is the 13th floor.

Re: In Hong Kong, flats really are cheaper when they contain the number 4

#42

In the states it's quite common to number the floors of a building by avoiding the number 13. I think this is pure madness. 10, 11, 12, 14, 15... All of that because of a fantasy book where people had supper and they happen to be 13 at the table. Edit: Here's an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_(number)#/media/File:Many_b...

The same on planes. There is never (I've never seen it anyway) row #13. It goes straight from row #12 to #14.

Czech Airlines used to have a row 13.

Years ago they also had a pretty cool security demonstration in which they lighted up the emergency lighting.

Re: In Hong Kong, flats really are cheaper when they contain the number 4

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I'm the author of this post and the founder of dataguru.hk, AMA

Very interesting work! Just a quick note, for this kind of evenly spaced, discrete X data, stairs plots are usually better. For instance this highlights better the 13th floor issue, which in the line plot was obscured: https://i.imgur.com/cSjT5xx.png

I agree that a stepped line graph is better that a line graph, but since the data is discrete and not continuous a lollipop chart or maybe a bar chart would convey it better.

Monty from xiph.org learned me that: https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml @ 5:57

Re: In Hong Kong, flats really are cheaper when they contain the number 4

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Another funny old news about superstition is that a public research institute located in Hong Kong Science Park used HK$180,000 (~USD $23,000) on fung shui consultation[1]. [1]: https://www.scmp.com/article/595459/value-money

You’d love the HSBC building in Hong Kong. HSBC own a large open space immediately in front of the building purely because its good feng shui to have an open view of the water [1]. It’s a completely open space in the most premium area of down town Hong Kong island, right next to the ferry terminal. It must be worth so much money. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC_Building_(Hong_Kong)#Feng...

This seems like a good example of how "feng shui" can be just "good atmosphere". A open view over the water is worth a lot.

Re: In Hong Kong, flats really are cheaper when they contain the number 4

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Its a bit surprising to see this. I thought they go for using '3B' instead of an outright '4'

I only include integer floors in this analysis, but there very few flats with regex \d\w. Or you're surprised there are 4s at all?

The 4s aren't surprising because of the superstition with 4, it's that you find them that is odd. To best capitalise on the property it would be apt to rename them 3B or 13B. It's a well known practice to avoid the 4 because it wastes value.

Re: In Hong Kong, flats really are cheaper when they contain the number 4

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very interesting work! Just a quick note, for this kind of evenly spaced, discrete X data, stairs plots are usually better. For instance this highlights better the 13th floor issue, which in the line plot was obscured: https://i.imgur.com/cSjT5xx.png

I agree that a stepped line graph is better that a line graph, but since the data is discrete and not continuous a lollipop chart or maybe a bar chart would convey it better. Monty from xiph.org learned me that: https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml @ 5:57

Also a good option, although they seem a bit "busy" for my taste when Y values are very close: https://i.imgur.com/4ePNXbp.png

Re: In Hong Kong, flats really are cheaper when they contain the number 4

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In the states it's quite common to number the floors of a building by avoiding the number 13. I think this is pure madness. 10, 11, 12, 14, 15... All of that because of a fantasy book where people had supper and they happen to be 13 at the table. Edit: Here's an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_(number)#/media/File:Many_b...

>All of that because of a fantasy book where people had supper and they happen to be 13 at the table.

Your link doesn't state that. It mentions the last supper as a potential but unlikely origin of 13 as an unlucky number.

Re: In Hong Kong, flats really are cheaper when they contain the number 4

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same on planes. There is never (I've never seen it anyway) row #13. It goes straight from row #12 to #14.

Qantas to the rescue of all that is rational. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Qantas_Airways/Qantas_Airw...

And they have a great safety record. Maybe 13 is a lucky number after all?
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