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Re: Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Finalized

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1. What if we put "beginning" as in "before it was even called the Internet"? Indeed, ARPANET, which came online in 1969, saw fast growth in the United States in the 70s. Nodes came online to use it , not to make a quick buck. The government subsidized it because its potential use was obvious. Email started being used in 1972, FTP in 1973. To compare these world-changing technologies that were invented and used merel…

> What if we put "beginning" as in "before it was even called the Internet"? Indeed, ARPANET, which came online in 1969, saw fast growth in the United States in the 70s. Nodes came online to use it, not to make a quick buck. People use cryptocurrency too. For value transfer, and to a more limited extent, for dapps like Augur. You seem to be criticizing the delta between the lofty hopes for it and it's actual usage. T…

> People use cryptocurrency too. For value transfer

What's your evidence for this?

Even major Bitcoin advocates say it's no longer useful as a payment system: https://avc.com/2017/08/store-of-value-vs-payment-system/

Bitcoin's total TPS is circa 2-3. [1] And presumably a small fraction of that is actual money transfer. In contrast, M-Pesa, a digital money system that started about the same time and has millions of users, has 100x that volume and is growing rapidly. [2]

So I'm entirely skeptical that it's better for any significant market than even legacy money transfer methods, let alone trying to compete with newer tech.

[1] https://www.blockchain.com/charts/transactions-per-second

[2] https://www.mobileworldlive.com/money/news-money/m-pesa-reac...

Re: Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Finalized

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For most Venezuelans, getting access to cash is not a practical reality, even if it's a theoretical one. I went to Venezuela in 2011 and you couldn't even bring $1K USD worth of goods into the country without being taxed to death on it (or paying off some government official). How about cash? Also, I'd rather carry a USB stick with a private key on it than a wad of cash in one of the world's most violent countries (i…

And how do you buy things with your usb stick?

You buy things via the internet. USB stick (or whatever, paper wallet even) is just cold storage for the private keys of ETH, QTUM, BTC, wallet, etc.

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These are open questions. And it may be that blockchain will be an underlying infrastructure that is mostly used by large, centralized entities to settle between each other. But if that's the equilibrium into which we settle, individuals will still have the option to control their own assets in a true sense, even if most people choose not to.

it would be really cool to be able to verify the ownership of any property on earth by checking Bitcoin or Eth block chain, but there would have to be a way to have authority unanimously change the record.

Beyond curiosity, what practical purpose would such a tool serve vs other methods of verifying assets?

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Snake oil is actually very useful: https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/oils/snake-oil.... My superpower: Taking things literally. Still more useful than the last 10 ICOs. And my bad jokes aren't as bad for the environment. 10k joke-coins pre-ICO and 2 downvotes for that one for me! We had three innovative ideas in the financial sector - certificate of debt, compounded interest and book money. And now the fou…

Can we offer an ICO for tokenized "taking things literally" jokes?

What about an options market for jokes that may be taken literally in the future?

r/memeeconomy but irl, if you will.

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Snake oil is actually very useful: https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/oils/snake-oil.... My superpower: Taking things literally. Still more useful than the last 10 ICOs. And my bad jokes aren't as bad for the environment. 10k joke-coins pre-ICO and 2 downvotes for that one for me! We had three innovative ideas in the financial sector - certificate of debt, compounded interest and book money. And now the fou…

When it comes to health benefits, I'm not likely to click a link to `organicfacts.net` and assume it's backed with scientific evidence.

Well in this case they provide a link:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1026931/?&utm_m...

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What attributes about crypto, makes you feel the same way? i.e. that it is going to be revolutionary Because the example you said about the internet (from loading webpage to video streaming) does sound amazing. What's the "parallel" for crypto that you see?

https://i.redd.it/l5y9p9nqwu811.png This sums it up better than I could. The wrenching of power away from centralized authorities and organizations (which we have seen abuse us and our privacy mercilessly for their gain) to decentralized applications with no middlemen, that are free of censorship, and can not be "stopped."

Reading that, all I can get out of it is "Do things without people who are experts in that field, try to reinvent their expertise on the fly, and fuck up on the way."

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>>It's weird because people compare it to the early days of the Internet... but the early Internet was useful from its beginning Exactly why so much wealth was created by the Internet boom. The wealth came from utility that already existed, just needed to be harnessed to its fullest potential. ICO scams are based on generating wealth first and hoping that utility follows at some undetermined time in the future. It's…

Snake oil is actually very useful: https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/oils/snake-oil.... My superpower: Taking things literally. Still more useful than the last 10 ICOs. And my bad jokes aren't as bad for the environment. 10k joke-coins pre-ICO and 2 downvotes for that one for me! We had three innovative ideas in the financial sector - certificate of debt, compounded interest and book money. And now the fou…

> Snake oil is actually very useful

You don't appear to actually understand what the phrase "snake oil" means in English. It doesn't mean "snake oil isn't useful".

It means: during in the 1800s Chinese immigrants to American used snake oil (from the Chinese water snake; the one in your link) as a cure-all. Unscrupulous "snake oil salesmen" would sell what-they-called-snake-oil-but-actually-wasn't. Or it used rattlesnake oil instead of water snake oil.

Here's a 90 second video that says the same thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaDsOJATX3A

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And how do you buy things with your usb stick?

You buy things via the internet. USB stick (or whatever, paper wallet even) is just cold storage for the private keys of ETH, QTUM, BTC, wallet, etc.

But can't i do the same thing from wherever i am and have it delivered? Or have it mailed as a gift? Even with the situation in Venezuela, Fedex/DHL still ship there.

Furthermore how does that allow you to pay for food, water, utilities, or even fuel for your car?

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Geez sorry for outlining both sides of an argument in response to a question, hivemind downvotes are strong today

It's ironic how the crowds of pro-crypto-currency shills so predictably whine and throw around the word "hivemind" in response to thinking people reacting rationally in response to their mindless greedy knee-jerk decentralized marketing of fraudulent pump-and-dump schemes.

I don't even own any ICO tokens let alone shill them : D

The emotional response here is fantastic, it reminds me of this essay

http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html

Re: Half of ICOs Die Within Four Months After Token Sales Finalized

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Snake oil is actually very useful: https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/oils/snake-oil.... My superpower: Taking things literally. Still more useful than the last 10 ICOs. And my bad jokes aren't as bad for the environment. 10k joke-coins pre-ICO and 2 downvotes for that one for me! We had three innovative ideas in the financial sector - certificate of debt, compounded interest and book money. And now the fou…

> Snake oil is actually very useful You don't appear to actually understand what the phrase "snake oil" means in English. It doesn't mean "snake oil isn't useful". It means: during in the 1800s Chinese immigrants to American used snake oil (from the Chinese water snake; the one in your link) as a cure-all. Unscrupulous "snake oil salesmen" would sell what-they-called-snake-oil-but-actually-wasn't. Or it used rattlesn…

I'm pretty sure he knows. Hence "My superpower: Taking things literally."

Incidentally I'm pretty sure water snake oil is not actually a cure-all anymore than rattlesnake oil is.

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