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Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by 1996 » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:19 PM UTC

paulschraven wrote: post #5

minimaxir wrote: post #2

So what is the pricing? The website has a login-wall to access the pricing.

NVIDIA GTX1080 - 0.25 / hour NVIDIA GTX1070 - 0.2 / hour NVIDIA P106-100 - 0.095 / hour (All values in $ I assume)

I hope not, or it is an epic fail

0.25x24x30.5=183

For 100 Eur, or about $120, you can get a 1080 inside A DEDICATED SERVER (!!) at Hetzner: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex51-ssd-gpu?co...

I guess I have a business idea then: charge 0.5/h to rent the 1080, pocket the $63 difference per month and call it profit, undercutting Snark by 33% without even doing any crypto mining or anything on the side.

Or, just call it step 1 for mega profits! Step 2: resell the CPU computing power, step 3: resell the SSD storage space, step 4: resell the bandwidth, etc. (not sure you can resell the unused RAM, but that's another "innovative business" waiting to happen!!)

Compared to renting servers and properly configuring them (anycast, geoip, etc) I often fail to see the value that "distributed" or "cloud" offer provide besides fast scalability.

It is nice to be able to put 4x more GPUs online in a few hours instead of a day, but I am not sure it commands a 33% premium except in very specific marginal cases.

Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by 1996 » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:36 PM UTC

harias wrote: post #9

Are you the same guy : https://www.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/86ofw2/rent_out_...

Then it is a copycat of nicehash.

I wonder how they plan to undercut nicehash?

Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by davidbuniat » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:37 PM UTC

harias wrote: post #9

Are you the same guy : https://www.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/86ofw2/rent_out_...

No, we only work with large scale hardware providers that guarantees security and reliability. We specialize in Deep Learning services including training and deployment.

Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by davidbuniat » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:40 PM UTC

paulschraven wrote: post #7

Are you planning to add cards manufactured for ML, such as the NVidia Titan V (110 teraflops)?

yes, we are currently focusing on large-scale compute, but we are planning to add more variety for hardware.

Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by whoisjuan » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:42 PM UTC

"3-5 times cheaper than public cloud"... That's very vague. What's the actual minimum price per hour?

Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by davidbuniat » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:43 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #2

So what is the pricing? The website has a login-wall to access the pricing.

Thanks for raising this, we will put the prices public soon.

Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by davidbuniat » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:45 PM UTC

whoisjuan wrote: post #15

"3-5 times cheaper than public cloud"... That's very vague. What's the actual minimum price per hour?

Thanks for asking, it is cheaper than preemptible instance of K80 0.135$/h on Google with an equivalent GPU of P106 0.095$/h on Snark.

Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by davidbuniat » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:46 PM UTC

technologia wrote: post #6

I don't know if I overlooked it, but it doesn't seem possible to delete my account if I so choose.

Just shoot us an email at support@snark.ai, we will handle it :)

Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by kowdermeister » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:48 PM UTC

1996 wrote: post #11

paulschraven wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NVIDIA GTX1080 - 0.25 / hour NVIDIA GTX1070 - 0.2 / hour NVIDIA P106-100 - 0.095 / hour (All values in $ I assume)

I hope not, or it is an epic fail 0.25x24x30.5=183 For 100 Eur, or about $120, you can get a 1080 inside A DEDICATED SERVER (!!) at Hetzner: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex51-ssd-gpu?co... I guess I have a business idea then: charge 0.5/h to rent the 1080, pocket the $63 difference per month and call it profit, undercutting Snark by 33% without even doing any crypto mining or anything on the side. Or,…

wow, thanks, last time I checked (couple of years ago) they had close to none GPU offerings

Re: Launch HN: Snark AI (YC S18) – Distributed Low-Cost GPUs for Deep Learning

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Post by davidbuniat » Mon, Jul 09, 2018, 6:58 PM UTC

1996 wrote: post #11

paulschraven wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NVIDIA GTX1080 - 0.25 / hour NVIDIA GTX1070 - 0.2 / hour NVIDIA P106-100 - 0.095 / hour (All values in $ I assume)

I hope not, or it is an epic fail 0.25x24x30.5=183 For 100 Eur, or about $120, you can get a 1080 inside A DEDICATED SERVER (!!) at Hetzner: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex51-ssd-gpu?co... I guess I have a business idea then: charge 0.5/h to rent the 1080, pocket the $63 difference per month and call it profit, undercutting Snark by 33% without even doing any crypto mining or anything on the side. Or,…

Yeah, We present prices on hourly basis and you can spin up pods in matter of seconds. Actually we will try to reach them and see if partnership can make our services even cheaper, thanks for pointing this out.