Assuming that this is not a fake - who is the target audience for a such page? They are not talking about baby diapers there, but CPU architectures. I just can't imagine that someone responsible for choosing a CPU architecture will base his/her decision on a page like this. Then why it exists? To show us that ARM is afraid of RISC-V? Ok then, message received.
ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
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Re: ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
#42ARM is playing a very, very dumb game here. Do they seriously think any prospective RISC-V user has not taken this information into account? Whomever goes on to design an ASIC probably knows what they are getting into well enough.
ARM would be much wiser to embrace RISC-V early, spearheading this effort and bringing RISC-V users into their tools and ecosystem.
Re: ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
#43Assuming that this is not a fake - who is the target audience for a such page? They are not talking about baby diapers there, but CPU architectures. I just can't imagine that someone responsible for choosing a CPU architecture will base his/her decision on a page like this. Then why it exists? To show us that ARM is afraid of RISC-V? Ok then, message received.
> Then why it exists?
Propaganda ("FUD"). SEO.
Re: ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
#44I call shenanigans, this is a fake page. First off the page isn't coming from arm's own domain yet it appears to mimic the look and feel of the arm site. No cookie acceptance policy and the missing links from the bottom of the page are further proof.
This part however is hosted on ARM's own website: https://www.arm.com/-/media/global/company/arm-risc-v-infogr...
Could be a graphic asset that is being used out of context.
Re: ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
#45ARM is apparently and unsurprisingly scared shitless about the RISC-V threat.
They may be scared and this is completely normal. What is not normal - it's the fact that there is a person placed high enough in the ARM's chain of command, who sanctioned this dumb page - like "oh, that's really nice - it will help us a lot, publish it".
Re: ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some open source projects are different. A lot of them do not cater to end users directly. But if you want to talk about open source security, take a look at how OpenBSD handles issues; they definitely aren't messing around.
That's all true, I'm just wondering how things would be different if everyone were using an Open Source CPU vs what we have today. If everyone is running the same CPU design but sourced from different manufacturers who had them spun up at different fabs, how would that affect support? Today we have one or two device manufacturers we rely on for support and answers about if security fixes can be done in firmware vs re…
That's the case today: ARM CPUs are sourced from different manufacturers and packaged together with other cores into SoCs, which have wildly varying support from their vendors. Some of these processors also have custom extensions. If you're worried about chip security when anyone can manufacture a chip, then sorry, we're already there, and RISC-V doesn't change that.
Re: ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
#47A friend works in ARM and was extremely surprised (negatively) when I shared this link with him
RISC-V may, perhaps, compete in two fields with ARM: education, where ARM doesn't give a fuck, and hacker boards, which is a tiny market compared to smartphones, smarttvs and so on. There have been around 15 million Raspberry Pi (the most popular SBC) sold in 6 years. Samsung sold 321 million smartphones last year alone.
Whoever is thinking today about replacing some production anything with a RISC-V is insane to begin with, but this campaign ups the insanity further.
Re: ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
#48Scary! Scary! Don't go in there - it's SCARY!
But scary for whom? For ARM maybe? Is it just me, or is this pure FUD?
Re: ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
#49If this article is genuine (there are many comments arguing it might not be) I would consider it an excellent endorsement of RISC-V. If a company with an awesome engineering, like I consider ARM to be, is scared to the point of authoring some FUD, RISC-V has to be _really_ promising!
Re: ARM: “RISC-V Architecture: Understand the Facts”
#50A friend works in ARM and was extremely surprised (negatively) when I shared this link with him RISC-V may, perhaps, compete in two fields with ARM: education, where ARM doesn't give a fuck, and hacker boards, which is a tiny market compared to smartphones, smarttvs and so on. There have been around 15 million Raspberry Pi (the most popular SBC) sold in 6 years. Samsung sold 321 million smartphones last year alone. W…
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/01/wdc_risc_v_edge_str...
https://www.wdc.com/about-wd/newsroom/press-room/2017-11-28-...
> Western Digital’s leadership role in the RISC-V initiative is significant in that it aims to accelerate the advancement of the technology and the surrounding ecosystem by transitioning its own consumption of processors – over one billion cores per year – to RISC-V.
Western Digital is moving to RISC-V. I'd say ARM has begun to notice the shift and needs to begin damage control.