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Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by Pica_soO »

acangiano wrote: post #8

Reading this will rightfully scare the bejeezus out of us. The question is, what can we do? Alzheimer is sometimes referred to as diabetes type 3. Cutting out sugar and eating a low carb diet is a good precaution. It likely wouldn't have helped Jo, but it might save quite a few of us from this scary outcome.

That Diabetus 3 theory does not correlate with the actual data.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Fig-1-World-map-illustra...

Note that the data is obviously tainted by the reduced average lifespane in some countrys.

There is a nice list of theorys allready:

- If sleep deprivation was the source, then citys with a wild nightlife should show more cases then countryside citizens.

- Diets exist in all forms and colours, if one would exclude the alzheimer component- the ethnic group would stand out. Instead they seem rather more prone then the default groups.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278789418_Prevalenc...

- Blood-Brain Barrier crossing viral Infections introduced DNA-Damage http://coconutketones.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/JAD_ene...

-Genetic Disposition http://www.scielo.br/pdf/dn/v9n3/1980-5764-dn-9-03-00219.pdf

- The usual noise. People condemning any behavior they dislike of any group they dislike as the source.

I can only add speculation of dubious value:

- What if dementia was the result of the memory storage process being finite? But wouldn't a sensory value deprived mice for example then be save from the effects? Has anybody seen a experiment, where high cognition loads and stress/ sleep deprivation where driven against low cognition, stress and sleep deprivation?

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by vfc1 »

It's the food. Alzheimer looks like a form of arteriosclerosis of the brain.

In autopsies to Alzheimer patient brains we can see the small arteries of the brain clogged with fat and colestrol, here is a video showing this with pictures - https://youtu.be/WhtpyVhlu28?list=PL5TLzNi5fYd8E6GHQcmIWYGE7...

If plaque building in main arteries can cause heart atacks, the exact same blood is getting to the brain - imagine what it will do there.

If anyone here has Alzheimer in the family and would like to preventively change their diet, have a look at this other video from that playlist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-noCw4LsY4&list=PL5TLzNi5fY...

In summary, there are strong indications that a whole food plant based diet low in fat is the best-known way to prevent Alzheimer's and even alleviate the symptoms.

Hope for Alzheimer Patients: https://nutritionfacts.org/2017/12/26/hope-for-alzheimers-pa...

It's important that the diet is not only plant based, but low in fat as for example there is a lot of Alzheimer's in India where a large part of the population is vegetarian.

This has been linked to ghee (clarified butter), as per this video:

Oxidized Cholesterol as a Cause of Alzheimers Disease - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y15yI5LLlNY

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by Pica_soO »

creep wrote: post #30
linkmotif wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not insane at all. I’m with you on this. I grew up with my grandma, who lived with my family. She was a cool, collected, highly stable person who worked her whole life as a doctor. I guess this sounds really heavy thinking about it now, but it didn’t seem so at the time when she told me once when I was a teenager that if she ever had dimentia that I should kill her somehow. She was of course to some extent trying to…

I have told my partner that if I get dementia, I would like to die. I didn't say he should kill me, but I hope that he wouldn't have to.

In the end stages, the body looses the ability to regulate temperature.

Strange idea though, can one speed up dementia? Accelerate it?

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by tormeh »

benjohnson wrote: post #15
ryanmercer wrote: post #6

This is the kind of stuff that keeps me up at night. I really hope we can make breakthroughs with these sorts of things soon.

Bonus: sleep deprivation is thought to cause brain damage.

If one of the functions of sleep is to remove toxins in the brain then this essentially follows.

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by throwaway1909 »

vfc1 wrote: post #42

It's the food. Alzheimer looks like a form of arteriosclerosis of the brain. In autopsies to Alzheimer patient brains we can see the small arteries of the brain clogged with fat and colestrol, here is a video showing this with pictures - https://youtu.be/WhtpyVhlu28?list=PL5TLzNi5fYd8E6GHQcmIWYGE7... If plaque building in main arteries can cause heart atacks, the exact same blood is getting to the brain - imagine wha…

Your conspiracy theory approach to science backed by Youtube videos is obnoxious. The cause of Alzheimer's is still unknown, but most likely related to amyloid plaques. Diet may contribute. Or it may not. In a 38 year old, it's genetics. Period.

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by ajaxaddicted »

throwaway1909 wrote: post #45
vfc1 wrote: post #42

It's the food. Alzheimer looks like a form of arteriosclerosis of the brain. In autopsies to Alzheimer patient brains we can see the small arteries of the brain clogged with fat and colestrol, here is a video showing this with pictures - https://youtu.be/WhtpyVhlu28?list=PL5TLzNi5fYd8E6GHQcmIWYGE7... If plaque building in main arteries can cause heart atacks, the exact same blood is getting to the brain - imagine wha…

Your conspiracy theory approach to science backed by Youtube videos is obnoxious. The cause of Alzheimer's is still unknown, but most likely related to amyloid plaques. Diet may contribute. Or it may not. In a 38 year old, it's genetics. Period.

Period. So ignorant. At least give those videos a look. There is actual science behind it. Diet contributes big time.

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by pimmen »

My grandfather is 79 and got his alzheimer's diagnosis this fall. He's lived a long, absolutely amazing life and inspired me to become an engineer. He's the kind of man that if he wants something done, he learns what to do and does it.

My grandfather lived his life, so I understand it's very different from the people who develop the disease in their 30s when they were supposed to raise children, start businesses, find their career niche and maybe their lifelong hobby. My grandfather did all that but I'm still very sad. He will forget everything he did, all the jobs he created with his successful businesses, all the laughs from me and my brother when he shared his blunders in life, all the math he learned and loved ... really everything he holds dear.

I remember reading the Wikipedia article about Claude Shannon and crying a few years ago. He also died of alzheimer's and in his last days, he'd forgotten the profound impact he made on the world. I just can't imagine a worse fate, your body shutting down and all your achievements and experiences fading from memory. It would be worse to experience it as a young man, but no matter when it strikes, it's a way to go that nobody deserves.

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by Baeocystin »

will_brown wrote: post #36
mkrecny wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're only now just waking up to the reality that type-2 diabetes can be reversed w/ carbohydrate restriction, even though the data to support that has been around for decades. I don't think a decade is an unusual latency for the medical institution to lay idle on.

>We're only now just waking up to the reality that type-2 diabetes can be reversed w/ carbohydrate restriction I don’t think this is a new/recent revelation at all (and in fairness, I cut the next part of your quote that acknowledges decades old research). And while not all cases of type 2 can be reversed (most can) but maybe more importantly 100% of cases can be prevented through diet/exercise.

>100% of cases can be prevented through diet/exercise.

Is that accurate? Honest question. I know adult onset diabetes is strongly linked to obesity, but would have thought there are other potential causes as well.

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by mattigames »

entropy_ wrote: post #38

My wife's family has a different disease running through it, though one with very similar outcomes. Huntington's. It's genetic and dominant (so a parent having it means 50/50 for the children). Average age of onset is 38. Symptoms are a mixture of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's (both dementia and motor control issues). Her uncle was diagnosed at 38, her mother at 50. I wasn't around for the first one, but have been ther…

Yeah the only end of it is gonna be when people with such diseases stop having children, but just pointing out such an obvious solution generates all kinds of scorn from the people you are talking to, they seem to immediately think of "eugenics" and every other bad word and imagine you running a concentration camp... and not just people voluntarily using birth control to avoid the suffering of their own offspring that's all that I frequently suggest.

Re: Having Alzheimer’s at 38 (2015)

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Post by rammy1234 »

“He’s still my family,” she says. “If your family is in trouble, you take care of them. There isn’t another choice. You don’t just walk away.” Robin has contemplated , made me cry. Family means we are there to support and not run away. Great piece and hope there is some breakthrough soon for this and no one face this anymore.
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