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Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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Re: Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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Yeah but how much did the community college teacher publish?

How is publishing relevant to teaching?

I think that was the point. University lecturers are judged on their publication rate, not their teaching, so their teaching is sometimes awful.

Re: Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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My state has a network of community and technical colleges. There is a program that allows one to get their Associates degree through community colleges, then transfer to a state school and continue paying community college tuition. 10 years ago, this allowed for earning an engineering degree for $2k a year, or $8-10k. In my experience, community colleges were very much viewed as remedial. I’d guess that many of the…

I had this same experience.

I went to UIUC for Computer Engineering (I think it was #3 at the time), but my differential equations class was taught by someone with such a thick german accent it was impossible to understand. At least 100 people in the class, and no TAs that I can remember. Failed that course.

Took it over the summer at the local community college for much cheaper, and it was so much easier, smaller class (about 15), and then transferred the credit back to UIUC and didn't have to take it again at UIUC with the same professor who I couldn't understand the first time.

Re: Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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My state has a network of community and technical colleges. There is a program that allows one to get their Associates degree through community colleges, then transfer to a state school and continue paying community college tuition. 10 years ago, this allowed for earning an engineering degree for $2k a year, or $8-10k. In my experience, community colleges were very much viewed as remedial. I’d guess that many of the…

I had 400 level EE classes with a couple guys who came up through community colleges. They weren't always prepared for the classes. It was ironic because it wasn't they didn't understand the previous material, but because they hadn't dealt with poor instructors and didn't have the relationships of the previous 3 years studying with the same people.

It was possible at the same university to walk into a lab and start working on joint projects with NASA, the NSA or local industry, where other local universities and community colleges don't offer as much in that regard. On the other hand those professors running the labs didn't really seem to care where the students came from, whether they were in high school or the community college up the road if they were willing to work.

Re: Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is publishing relevant to teaching?

I think that was the point. University lecturers are judged on their publication rate, not their teaching, so their teaching is sometimes awful.

That's been my experience.

Re: Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is publishing relevant to teaching?

I think that was the point. University lecturers are judged on their publication rate, not their teaching, so their teaching is sometimes awful.

This hit a little too close to home. Interestingly enough, those professors at my alma mater who were abysmal at teaching and lecturing but pulling millions in grants listened to the course feedback cards. They took it to heart that we had been uninterested* in the way the course was presented, couldn't grasp the material from the lessons, etc. We could see how their teaching methods evolved as we had them for upper level courses and electives.

According to interns, those are some of the best professors that are currently on staff.

Irrelevant note: I originally used disinterested, but those words do not have the same meaning:

> An uninterested person is bored, unconcerned, or indifferent; a disinterested person is impartial, unbiased, or has no stake in the outcome.*[0]

[0]: https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/disinter...

Re: Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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Silicon Valley needs to get ahead of the curve: high school incubators!

Then some bright spark will come along and beat them to the punch: Jr High incubators!

We'll eventually have a system where you're born right into a desk, and a machine is hooked up to your head to suck all the originality, youth and zeal straight from the nape of your neck and provide it in pill form to people who have lost touch with reality, at the cost of your childhood, to those who can afford it.

We'll call it "authentic".

Re: Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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I attended community college for a few years before transferring to a 4-year university. During that time I took a variety of technical and non-technical courses that I really enjoyed and felt I got a lot of value from due to the small class sizes and ability to connect with professors outside of class fairly easily. I would have stopped after getting my Associate’s degree as I felt like I had learned a lot and I had…

Community colleges really are underrated. In a world where increasingly a bachelor's degree does not guarantee a job, university education is super expensive, and especially in fields where a bachelor's degree is not necessary (I've never had an interview where they asked about my college education), vocational schools are the place to be. Four-year universities put big emphasis on well-rounded educations, so you're…

A few years ago I did the rounds of a bunch of schools in the Bay Area giving talks to CS departments. By far the most passionate students and the smartest questions came from a community college I spoke at in the East Bay. They had so many questions that the planned 1 hour talk ended up taking 2 hours, and nobody left even though it was the end of the day. They had also set up their own after hours meet-ups to teach themselves parallel programming. It helped that their teacher was highly inspiring and passionate too.

In contrast, the university students just felt a lot less interested, and in one case they had to be promised credits just to get them to show up.

Re: Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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Community college was one of the smartest moves of my life. The IGETC program ensured that my education was equivalent to what I would have gotten at a UC as a freshmen and sophomore. My teachers were mostly Stanford and Berkeley PHDs. They were dedicated to teaching. Not trying to balance research and teaching. 30 people per class, maximum. Arguably, I got a better education than UC students. And obviously, cost. My…

Currently going to a CC in the Bay Area and it's a huge relief seeing that my time in the junior college won't be a waste as some have made it out to be.

Re: Big Tech’s Hot New Talent Incubator: Community College

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Community college was one of the smartest moves of my life. The IGETC program ensured that my education was equivalent to what I would have gotten at a UC as a freshmen and sophomore. My teachers were mostly Stanford and Berkeley PHDs. They were dedicated to teaching. Not trying to balance research and teaching. 30 people per class, maximum. Arguably, I got a better education than UC students. And obviously, cost. My…

Currently going to a CC in the Bay Area and it's a huge relief seeing that my time in the junior college won't be a waste as some have made it out to be.

Just wanted to say I also went to CC in the Bay Area, and a few years out I am still very satisfied with the education I got. I’m now at my 2nd job as a Software Engineer... it’s not a waste of time!
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