Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

#1

Post by vanderfluge » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 9:33 PM UTC

Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy
nytimes.com

Re: Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

#2

Post by projektir » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 10:04 PM UTC

Repeat after me: overeating is unhealthy.

What you happen to overeat is beside the point.

Re: Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

#3

Post by startupdiscuss » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 10:06 PM UTC

Ok, what if you carbonate juice, add ginger, and call it Kombucha? Is it healthy now?

Re: Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

#4

Post by amasad » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 10:06 PM UTC

projektir wrote: post #2

Repeat after me: overeating is unhealthy. What you happen to overeat is beside the point.

This is demonstrably false. No respectable scientist believes in the calories-in-calories-out model of obesity anymore.

Re: Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

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Post by spectrum1234 » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 10:07 PM UTC

startupdiscuss wrote: post #3

Ok, what if you carbonate juice, add ginger, and call it Kombucha? Is it healthy now?

Kombucha usually has way less sugar though. I get the brands that have 4-6grams of sugar per serving.

Re: Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

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Post by zaptheimpaler » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 10:08 PM UTC

amasad wrote: post #4

projektir wrote: post #2

Repeat after me: overeating is unhealthy. What you happen to overeat is beside the point.

This is demonstrably false. No respectable scientist believes in the calories-in-calories-out model of obesity anymore.

Go eat 5000 calories a day of veggies without becoming obese then. Just because calories isn't the only important factor in obesity does not mean its not a factor at all. Scientists are simply building a more sophisticated understanding of obesity that looks at many other factors.

Re: Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

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Post by godzillabrennus » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 10:08 PM UTC

Sugar is bad.

Juice has a lot of sugar.

Re: Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

#8

Post by JshWright » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 10:08 PM UTC

Here's some context on the authors:

https://twitter.com/aaronecarroll/status/1015682328411230208

Re: Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

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Post by Gobd » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 10:09 PM UTC

amasad wrote: post #4

projektir wrote: post #2

Repeat after me: overeating is unhealthy. What you happen to overeat is beside the point.

This is demonstrably false. No respectable scientist believes in the calories-in-calories-out model of obesity anymore.

What do they believe in now? I still thought calorie-in/out was the truth. I'd love to see some articles.

Re: Seriously, Juice Is Not Healthy

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Post by projektir » Sat, Jul 07, 2018, 10:09 PM UTC

amasad wrote: post #4

projektir wrote: post #2

Repeat after me: overeating is unhealthy. What you happen to overeat is beside the point.

This is demonstrably false. No respectable scientist believes in the calories-in-calories-out model of obesity anymore.

OK... that is news to me... do you have a link to a paper that proves this demonstrably false? Disproving a law of thermodynamics sounds like a big deal.

How does the new model explain people losing weight in adverse conditions?

I'm watching someone steadily lose weight via calories-in-calories-out model in front of me right now.