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Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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Post by lars512 » Fri, Oct 01, 2010, 2:23 PM UTC

fierarul wrote: post #20

sandGorgon wrote: post #14

On the other hand, I am getting tired of the way that Ubuntu is focusing so much on getting its fonts right, that critical aspects like suspend/resume are broken, but not fixed. Bug 568711 ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/568711)... particularly nasty because it is a confirmed bug in suspend/resume that has a lot of people being affected by it - but has been relegated to medium severity and is c…

Fonts were the most ugly part of Linux by far to me and the reason I bought an iBook long ago. The other reason was perfect hardware support so I could suspend / resume properly. I don't expect Canonical to support all the hardware in the world, but everybody stares at the OS font all day long.

Fonts have been getting better, but the first thing I do is to load up a new install with fonts imported from OS X and Windows. I find these improve the attractiveness of the desktop greatly.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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Post by u48998 » Fri, Oct 01, 2010, 2:35 PM UTC

rfugger wrote: post #72

u48998 wrote: post #69

I hate Ubuntu, there is no support for it. Tried it twice already. They need to go back to the drawing board.

An overview of support options, which are mainly free: http://www.ubuntu.com/support If you need live human support for a consumer desktop system, you can purchase it on a yearly basis: http://www.canonical.com/consumer-services/support

I wish to use Ubuntu because I have slightly older hardware, but if it renders youtube video in slow motion and if I see tons of similar complaints on the internet, than what good is an operating system competing with Microsoft which isn't even working well right out of the box?

Everyone seems to be getting greedy for updated hardware and operating systems. I don't really care to upgrade my hardware every two years. If Ubuntu cannot deliver without fastest processor and video memory, than they might as well just start selling to corporate and be done with the free stuff.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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Post by fader » Fri, Oct 01, 2010, 4:04 PM UTC

mgunes wrote: post #39

leftnode wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, of course. sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

That's an unsupported upgrade method. Please issue "update-manager -d" in a desktop install, or "do-release-upgrade -d" on a server or other command line environment.

And before people complain about the command line, this is possible in the GUI as well.

System - Administration - Update Manager

Click "Settings"

Under "Updates" select "Show new distribution releases: Normal releases"

By default if you are running an LTS release, Update Manager assumes you want to update only to the next LTS release. This setting will cause it to prompt you to update to the next non-LTS release and each other from then on.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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Post by fader » Fri, Oct 01, 2010, 4:08 PM UTC

u48998 wrote: post #122

rfugger wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An overview of support options, which are mainly free: http://www.ubuntu.com/support If you need live human support for a consumer desktop system, you can purchase it on a yearly basis: http://www.canonical.com/consumer-services/support

I wish to use Ubuntu because I have slightly older hardware, but if it renders youtube video in slow motion and if I see tons of similar complaints on the internet, than what good is an operating system competing with Microsoft which isn't even working well right out of the box? Everyone seems to be getting greedy for updated hardware and operating systems. I don't really care to upgrade my hardware every two years.…

Youtube is rendered by Flash. Entirely. As in, Ubuntu did not write the software, has no control over it, and can't make it run any faster. Just like Apple and Microsoft can't.

There are also slimmed down Ubuntu versions for older hardware, e.g. Xubuntu and Lubuntu. Those run much faster on aging systems, allowing Ubuntu to support people with newer hardware.

Not to mention that nobody's forcing you to update if you don't want to. For example, 8.04 is still officially supported through April 2011 for desktops and 2013 for servers. Please feel free to continue using that if it works better for you.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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Post by koeselitz » Fri, Oct 01, 2010, 10:04 PM UTC

nl wrote: post #114

koeselitz wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess this is a tiny point, but is there really no supported way to update from the command line?

or "do-release-upgrade -d" on a server or other command line environment. (emphasis mine)

Wow, I'm a genius today. Thanks, though.

Re: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) Release Candidate

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Post by mohammedsk » Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 2:32 PM UTC

I also gave up on Ubuntu. I had Dell D800 and Ubuntu was working just fine including suspend/hibernate. Now I got a new ASUS, where suspend/hibernate does not work. I decided to stick with Windows 7, it is more reliable for me when it comes to that issue. Although, I miss Ubuntu, for me it is a much better OS. Hopefully on day, before I am dead, they will fix this issue.