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Ask HN: founders, how much you had in the bank when you started your business?

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Re: Ask HN: founders, how much you had in the bank when you started your business?

#11
It's going back a bit but when I co-founded a company my wife and I effectively had no money that wasn't already committed to paying for other things (she was at law school which we were paying for using our own savings).

However, what we did have was a contract from a client giving my co-founder and I a years guaranteed work. In that year we found enough additional work to raise the headcount to four people and be fairly profitable - which we used to support the work required to eventually get VC investment and switch to product development. We got our first round about 2 years after we actually started trading.

Re: Ask HN: founders, how much you had in the bank when you started your business?

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3 months rent + unemployment

Strictly speaking, it is against the rules in the US to collect unemployment if you've started a new business. It does not matter if you have revenues or not. Be aware that filing for incorporation, LLC or DBA may cause your unemployment benefits to be suspended.

In the UK we borrowed money against our property (as house prices had inflated) in order to set up our business. We had no money of our own (£300 or so), just overdrafts to live on and were refused unemployment benefit. It was 2 months or so before we were going to be able to open our studio (building works, planning permissions, etc.) and neither of us was employed by the company into which the money had been vested (as director's loan).

Hard times!

90% of UK businesses fold in the first year, I can see why.

Basically the message was, sit and do nothing and we'll give you a house and pay you unemployment (until your payed in years of NIC have run out at least). Start a business on credit and we'll let you starve.

Re: Ask HN: founders, how much you had in the bank when you started your business?

#16
What you have in the bank is irrelevant, it's how far down the development road that money will take you that counts.

That's a calculation only you can do with your current living costs in addition to estimated cost of equipment, services, software, office space, and probably lots of other things you would never imagine (legal costs, accounting costs, cost of incorporating for example?)

If you're asking the question then I guess you haven't done these calculations yet - but putting them all down on paper (or spreadsheet more appropriately) as well as a realistic development timeline will tell you what you need to know.

Good luck! If you never try you'll never know.

Re: Ask HN: founders, how much you had in the bank when you started your business?

#17
As long as $5000 is enough for you to survive 3-4 months, go for it. As others pointed out, calculate your burn rate and make sure you won't call it quit after a month. You need enough time to put a MVP out there!

As a side not you will probably lose the money, but the learning experience will be invaluable :) From what I understand sounds like your burning rate should be pretty low. $5k could be enough. The risk seems minimal. You are just out of school, not leaving any kind of high paying job (anyways, you can always find one if you fail). The worst case scenario is losing that 5k.

You can do it!

Re: Ask HN: founders, how much you had in the bank when you started your business?

#18
20k USD and living costs of 400 USD per month. Also, very marketable skills:

Teaching English in China can get you that 400 USD rather quickly. Also, if you can do basic web development, you're pretty marketable (this pays relatively better than English, but English jobs are possibly easier to find than software consulting).

Unlike a lot of people starting a business, I had almost no fear of starving on the streets. When it comes to ensuring that I both have food and own as much of my time as possible, I try to eradicate risk as thoroughly as possible. Having a minimal financial footprint and redundant contingency plans allows me to do that.

Thankfully, these days, I don't need the side-jobs, I mostly just focus on growing my business's profit. When I want something unusual (new monitor, new advertising campaign), I just sleep a little less and pull in the extra money with some software consulting.

You can call it the lazy loading approach to finance.

Re: Ask HN: founders, how much you had in the bank when you started your business?

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This depends totally on your needs, ability to make money going forward, comfort with risk, etc. My bare minimum personal burn rate is about 1.5k per month, 2k at my usual standard of living. I quit the day job with about 5k in liquid savings, a retirement account rather larger that I haven't touched, and some consulting work lined up to cover the summer months. It was all but certain that sales from September on wou…

What city do you live in? Can you break down the $1.5k and $2k rates?
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