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How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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Re: How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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Our neighbor's democratic PM has a pro-Hinduism agenda despite of heading a secular state. A year back many opposite voices silents who raised questions about the fake surgical strike. What's your point here by the way?

Dude, your law and order has made sure to eliminate all Sikhs not only in Pakistan but even in Afghanistan. Million strong minority has been reduced to mere thousand. Let’s not point fingers here, your dictators have made this whole region a hellhole for minorities.

This is not a political forum so I will not continue to reveal further what's been happening in India.

Re: How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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Dude, your law and order has made sure to eliminate all Sikhs not only in Pakistan but even in Afghanistan. Million strong minority has been reduced to mere thousand. Let’s not point fingers here, your dictators have made this whole region a hellhole for minorities.

This is not a political forum so I will not continue to reveal further what's been happening in India.

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Re: How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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Even if it was, it would beg the question of probability of them (1) installing and using the beta and (2) somehow selecting an obscure font and (3) the font ends up becoming the default font years later.

Or someone else smuggled the font on their computer, so to set them up on this corruption case 12 years later ... also possible, but even less likely.

"Oh uh... Hashim, we're using this new font now, I send it to you."

"What is wrong with Times New Roman?"

"Pah! Are we Romans? Anyway, the prime minister prefers it."

Re: How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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This is not a political forum so I will not continue to reveal further what's been happening in India.

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I don't need to run away. I clearly said This is not the forum to flat your bubbles. This is hacker news, not a Republic forum.

Thanks for understanding.

Re: How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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That may have been true a few decades ago, but it's certainly becoming more democratic.. still not the best, though. Especially with the military curb circulations of a private national newspaper.

Attack on Dawn and Geo were first of a kind after 5 years lull. In last 5 years, Pakistan saw, well, nothing less than an explosion in privately owned press and TV channels.

Not last 5 years. That was mostly under an actual dictator Perviz Musharraff. That period was more democratic than after him which removed all power for local governments and probably more censorship/bans by PEMRA, our media regulatory agency.

I think people are too quick to judge other countries through their lens.

This is as true for some of us Pakistanis judging to the west through our cultural lens.

Re: How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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Pakistan acted on the Panama papers is a big news since a lot of countries with allegedly a hard stance against corruption did not.

It was mostly due to the efforts of one man, Imran Khan.

Yep. Hopefully he wins the current elections. Me and my whole family waited hours in lines to vote for him last elections.

Re: How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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If it was released in beta of longhorn in 2004 couldn’t they have still legitimately created the doc???

https://www.dawn.com/news/1344685 > In a separate email, de Groot, the font designer himself, said that while in theory it would have been possible to create a document using Calibri in 2006, the font would have to be obtained from a beta operating system, "from the hands of computer nerds". > "Why would anyone use a completely unknown font for an official document in 2006?" he went on to question. > "If the person u…

Having dealt with so many Pakistani web/graphic designers and photo retouchers back then, I don't think it is highly unlikely at all.

There was such a competitive race to the bottom with graphic design work that I could have seen the Prime Minister's son, daughter or anyone in their network having had that font on their computer.

At the time of this trial, I always had to laugh about the argument and wondered if I could present this reality as a third party to the trial, but then I saw that like every Pakistani Prime Minister is brought down this way and realized it has no bearing on my life whatsoever.

Re: How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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Good. Corruption needs jail time, not just fines.

Only if the same standard is held to everyone. I don't know any details about this case nor pakistans situation in general, but I know that in most corrupt states, corruption trials are usually used in a power struggle, where one corrupt side brings down the other side, and just has their own corpses better buried and/or is connected better to the investigators/secret intelligence.

Eh, better the powerful bringing each other down than united against the people.

Re: How a Microsoft Font Brought Down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif (2017)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it was, it would beg the question of probability of them (1) installing and using the beta and (2) somehow selecting an obscure font and (3) the font ends up becoming the default font years later.

Or someone else smuggled the font on their computer, so to set them up on this corruption case 12 years later ... also possible, but even less likely.

or a Pakistani web/graphic designer was in their family and the oversaturated race to the bottom resulted in obtaining that unique touch.

surprised that never came up during the case, but Pakistan drama is fun to watch play out from afar.

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