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Re: Advice

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post #81

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And the general, consistent feeling of well-being and attentiveness is seductive - it makes you feel like it'll always be there, without any maintenance.

Health is fleeting. Human life is short and brutal, so eat away while sitting on your lazy arse, I say.

It's pretty much a self fulfilling prophecy, yes.

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post #68

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Agreed. The older I get the more I’ve learned to listen to other people and to question my own ideas. I’ve gotten to the point where I actually view people who listen to others and are open to changing their opinions when confronted with good advice as being much more intelligent than those who are sure they are right about everything all the time. As the Bob Dylan song goes, “I was so much older then, I’m younger th…

Are you the co-founder and CEO of Stripe? Were you a millionaire at 19 and now, at 29, worth north of a billion dollars? Why would anyone want to listen to your advice? (/s Be careful about listening to people who are obviously statistical outliers, who are young and apparently have succeeded at everything they've touched.)

Because advice comes in many forms and is almost never universally applicable. Something that sounds great when applied to one case can usually be flipped on its head with a thousand counterexamples. I'd rather listen to someone who was an expert in whatever problem domain I was seeking advice in than someone who demonstrated massive success in a completely different area, yet I see people do this all the time. Mark Cuban is regularly on CNBC discussing his stock picks while he has actually underperformed the markets for many years. Yet his opinions and advice on stock-picking are highly respected because he top-ticked the sale of a startup that no longer exists and hasn't really created anything lasting since.

The Stripe founders I'm sure have incredible expertise in the payment and startup space and are clearly brilliant. Yet from reading this piece I can sense in a way that he himself probably can't, a sort of ignorance that comes from a lack of life experience. I wouldn't really be too interested in their ideas on most other subjects whereas I would be very interested in reading someone who (gasp!) hadn't created a 10-figure net worth before 30 if they had experience in that area. What a concept. I can't recall how many times I've looked back on a time I dismissed someone else's opinion only later to realize I was completely wrong. The realization that your opinions very often will prove incorrect and the associated behavioral change is what makes you wise, not the refusal to admit you are wrong and the dismissal of everyone who disagrees with you.

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"People who did great things often did so at very surprisingly young ages". This is very true, Gates was 19 (BASIC), Linus was 21 (Linux), Wozniak 25 (Apple I), Ada Lovelace 27 (first algorithm), Bill Joy 21 (vi), Andreessen 21 (Mosaic), Turing 24 (Turing machine) and so on.

I would love to see data on the age they decided to master a given field. For instance if you decide to master programming (w.e that means) and it takes roughly 10 years to achieve mastery then you should expect a great accomplishment 10 years after you've started diving deep in a field.

My assumption that it's rarer for those who are older is probably due to the fact that they have to worry about making a living and there aren't as many resources where you can engage with your peers outside of university, and also the fact that as a kid, making mistakes is not frowned upon but merely a process of discovery, whereas when you're older there is a lot of negative emotions associated with failure.

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Having lived there and now living in a cheaper real estate market I am grateful for having lived there, where I could not afford a house. I am now no longer interested in owning residential real estate no matter where I go!

The housing market is flooded with buyers right now, all-cash offers and waived inspections. It's obvious to me that most buyers don't realize the risks associated with their investment, don't understand how to monetize them against rents from long-term buyers, and are just generally thinking emotionally and irrationally. Terrible market to buy in if you don't like spending the rest of your life paying off a money pi…

To that I'd add if you buy make sure you are pretty sure you will be in the local market for work for 6-7 years, so even if the mortgage is below 30% and rent is more like 50% if you aren't confident you'll stay put for a while you still shouldn't buy. I think there is an irrational scramble to buy going on now too although I think it is not at the scale that caused the global financial crisis.

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#165
post #32

One thing that I didn't do at that age and very much regret is to be really conscious of being healthy and physically fit. That's the right time to learn what you should and shouldn't put in your body, and how to be constantly active. There's a million different ways to accomplish that but it's important to find one. People at that age often don't really understand how closely linked physical fitness and mental healt…

Same here, I actually lost 200 lbs in my mid-late 20s and it's amazing how many positive ways it has affected me beyond the physical health benefits. Growing up I never had an interest in sports/physical activities but I wish I had.

That's an incredible achievement. That's more than I've ever weighed. I can't imagine what it would be like to be carrying that much excess weight every day, I'm sure you were physically quite strong. And even mentally stronger for the commitment to lose the weight. Kudos for your transformation!

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#166
When I was a teenager, I listened to "Everybody's Free (to wear sunscreen)," which prompted me to read the essay "Advice, like youth, probably just wasted on the young." Probably one of the only real bits of advice I listened to in my teens, thought about, and then attempted to follow.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-schmich-su...

I'm actually old enough to write a 20-30 column. My only advice is to know the different between wanting something and how you want something to happen. In my 20s, I despised the idea of luck, but I've learned so much of what happens in life is outside your control. The only thing reliably in your control is your attitude.

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#167

"Go be an autodidact iconoclast, and hang out with everyone else does that, too." is a great recipe for being an interesting person. But changing the world requires not just being interesting, but understanding the status quo, and finding ways to bridge them. This advice won't give you both sides. Also, there is nothing wrong with living a pedestrian life. Millions (billions?) of people do so, happily. And there are…

Agreed. I'm quite happily pedestrian, and I've met too many people who "went deep" only on a few subjects but were very boring people unless you talked to them about their chosen subjects. Some of my best friends are boring from an economic standpoint because they're poor. But they're wonderful people and I wouldn't trade them for any of the learning I could get from someone who makes more money.

I think Hunter S. Thompson's advice for young people is much better, because in it he makes the point that anyone seeking to give you advice can't possibly know enough about your situation to give good advice.

https://fs.blog/2014/05/hunter-s-thompson-to-hume-logan/

If who you are is pedestrian, don't hesitate to be the most pedestrian you can be.

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I can only speak from personal experience, but I have noticed that I easily get excited to learn a shiny new tool or skill, but once I have basic familiarity with it, my eagerness dries up because all that was driving my desire to learn was the intrigue of an unknown experience. Times where I felt like I actually went deep (and it didn't require superhuman discipline to spend time on something I had lost interest in)…

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. True, it is in fact the desire to learn was the intrigue of an unknown experience sensation that makes me jump from one ship to the other, frequently. I guess I need to work on my discipline and focus on a single tech stack for a considerable period.

Languages are just ...tools, instruments. So desire to learn a language (or framework, whatever tool-kit) for the sake of learning .. isnt going to hold far. BUT.. once u have that half-tool, and the half-transparent-new-window that comes with it, u can use it (and bunch of others) to be able to desire to learn something completely different... AND then use that as a stepping stone for the next.. (repeat..) until u find what u want to do, and all those stones either become the polished fundaments or just mark your steps searching around for the way.

There's saying.. if u fall on your face, dont forget to take something as a souvenir...

have fun

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post #68
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> If you think something is important but people older than you hold don't hold it in high regard, there's a decent chance that you're right and they're wrong. Status lags by a generation or more. I winced a little bit at this one, though it's worded strangely so I may be misinterpreting it. The way I took it is poor advice -- when there is a mismatch between yourself and another in terms of "what's important" or wha…

Agreed. The older I get the more I’ve learned to listen to other people and to question my own ideas. I’ve gotten to the point where I actually view people who listen to others and are open to changing their opinions when confronted with good advice as being much more intelligent than those who are sure they are right about everything all the time. As the Bob Dylan song goes, “I was so much older then, I’m younger th…

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Re: Advice

#170
post #125

What I will like to really know is people thoughts on what they think people 20-30 & 30-40 should do

20-40: Get married and/or have kids. Both will change your outlook on many topics way more than you expect.

And let them do so. Marriage and kids have downsides as well as upsides. Don't be looking at the downsides so much that you miss enjoying the upsides.
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