The App Store turns 10 • Hacker News Board

Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by rstupek » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 6:52 PM UTC

cV6WB wrote: post #13

NearAP wrote: post #6

If you purchase an App from the App store and then change your phone, I assume you should be able to carry over the paid app to your new phone. Does anybody know if the App Store enforces this and what (if anything) they do to vendors who violate this? It seems that there are numerous complaints on the review page of "word with friends" by people who paid for the Ad-free version but when they moved to a new device, t…

Purchases are tied to an Apple ID, so using the same Apple ID on the new device should allow this. I’ve never had problems here even with in app purchases. (There is often an option to “Restore Purchases” for in app specifically to enable a previously purchased item on a new device.)

restore purchase is actually required in all apps which have in-app purchases.

Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by scarface74 » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 7:02 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #57

scarface74 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was Apple's official "sweet solution" for app development on the iPhone. https://daringfireball.net/2007/06/wwdc_2007_keynote

Thank you very much. My how things have changed ... and still haven't caught up. Granted as another user says, Apple has no reason to push apps off the store to the web now considering the insane cash flow.

Most of the apps on the app store that make money are in app purchases for games and to a lesser extent the streaming media apps. I doubt that either of these categories would go web anytime soon.

There are no in app purchases for most of the apps that people are claiming that could be PWA's

Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 7:06 PM UTC

wmeredith wrote: post #29

scarface74 wrote: post #23

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It's no different than any other type of marketplace whether it be for music, books, video, etc.

I strongly disagree. Finding a product on Amazon is significantly easier than finding something in the App Store. Sometimes even if you know the exact name of the app you literally cannot access it unless you have the URL. Their search is awful and forget browsing with the amount of content.

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Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by yread » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 7:07 PM UTC

waivek wrote: post #33

Whenever I get a new Windows laptop, the first four or five hours are spent reinstalling software that I use on a daily basis. I can just leave a new phone next to the router. With windows, I have to sit and monitor a lot of things for those four hours along with hunting down the most updated executables and setup files. I feel that mobile got software distribution correct. Thanks a ton, Scott Forstall.

have you tried ninite it can install lots of free software without interaction

Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by segmondy » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 7:08 PM UTC

I'm still curious, where can one get a comprehensive list of Apps published in the app store, date uploaded, number of downloads, etc?

Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by darpa_escapee » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 7:09 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #42

mankash666 wrote: post #39

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Despite initial plans, that ship has long sailed. Apple's all about exerting control over the app store, and purposefully breaking the open web on their platform, to drive users and devs to the app store. Non exhaustive list of web APIs broken on iOS Safari: 1. WebRTC Data channel 2. WebGl 2 3. Limiting WebApp storage to 50MB, just because. Oh, and purging it at random, just because 4. Web push notifications 5. Disal…

Oh I don't doubt it, they're not interested in going back. I just thought it was an interesting fact if true about their perspective early on. Heck I'm just getting into web development and honestly... web apps seem to be JUST barely now getting there when it comes to app quality, polish.

This was at the height of the Web 2.0 phase and many platforms were preparing to go the HTML/JS/CSS route for applications. At the time, it seemed like the trajectory application development was heading.

Palm's WebOS put web technology first on its platform, and sought to compete with the existing mobile platforms.

Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by thisisananth » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 7:19 PM UTC

waivek wrote: post #33

Whenever I get a new Windows laptop, the first four or five hours are spent reinstalling software that I use on a daily basis. I can just leave a new phone next to the router. With windows, I have to sit and monitor a lot of things for those four hours along with hunting down the most updated executables and setup files. I feel that mobile got software distribution correct. Thanks a ton, Scott Forstall.

Did you try scoop for windows.It is a command line installer and you can avoid all the annoying popups. https://github.com/lukesampson/scoop

Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by threeseed » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 7:21 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #57

scarface74 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was Apple's official "sweet solution" for app development on the iPhone. https://daringfireball.net/2007/06/wwdc_2007_keynote

Thank you very much. My how things have changed ... and still haven't caught up. Granted as another user says, Apple has no reason to push apps off the store to the web now considering the insane cash flow.

Also the fact is that mobile web apps are still terrible.

In almost all cases they still resemble HTML pages rather than feeling like a native app.

Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by dawnerd » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 7:22 PM UTC

Oh man, that takes me back. I remember Cro-mag rally and Super Monkey Ball so well. I wonder if they're still around...

Quick edit: Cro-mag is still alive and kicking, looks like it just got iPhone x support too. Crazy.

Re: The App Store turns 10

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Post by tonyedgecombe » Thu, Jul 05, 2018, 7:22 PM UTC

I wish they offered a proper rental model in the App Store, I know you can do it with in-app purchase but that all feels a little underhand, I'd rather use something baked into the store.